He looked like he never touched a weight last season. This year, he will lift and probably will be on juice and/or HGH, so he will be much bigger and stronger.Originally Posted by Shoe
He looked like he never touched a weight last season. This year, he will lift and probably will be on juice and/or HGH, so he will be much bigger and stronger.
It doesn't _MEAN_ you are necessarily football strong, but being super weak on bench means you definitely aren't football strong. It is not the perfect indicator of you being a strong football player, but if you are lame as hell under that bar, you are weak over all. Any none-slender player (WR, CB) better do at least 15 reps, or it's an indication that said player is just too weak. If a LB can't do at least 15 reps, he is gonna be too weak to do much of anything. Add on top, that most any draft pick trains for the combo, and it's even a more telling indicator if they can't pump out reps.
Harrison is/was known for his weight room work ethic. IIRC JJ isn't known for loving the weight room. BP numbers can show if a guy spends time in the weight room. If they spend time in the weight room that strength work will bleed over onto the field.
1. CB – Marcus Peters – Washington – 6/190
2. OG – Josue Matias – Florida State – 6-6/320
3. OLB – Geneo Grissom – Oklahoma – 6-4/250
4. DL – Ellis McCarthy – UCLA – 6-5/330
5. TE – Jeff Heurman – Ohio State – 6-5/255
6. FS – Adrian Amos – Penn State – 6/200
7. DT – Terry Williams – East Carolina – 6-1/340
UDFA
DB – Justin Cox – Mississippi St. – 6-2/190
OLB – Davis Tull – Chattanooga – 6-2/242
A lot of guys have been monsters in the weight room and Jane on the field. what's your point? It took James three teams and a ton of tries to catch on with a team. Maybe he was dumb. I don't know.
I agree that football strength and weight room strength are different things. And I understand that there have been guys who are extremely strong that fail in the NFL. This started because I said I believe that lack of strength wasn't one of JH problems. He put up solid BP numbers at his pro day. We all know that JH is football strong and also beasts it out in the weight room. I'm not saying that being weight room strong is the be-all end-all but chances are if you are strong in the weight room you can use that strength on the field.
It took JH time to learn the D plus he had to transition since he played DE in college. JJ played 3-4OLB in college so hopefully the mental part won't take as long. I think lack of overall strength is part of JJ's problem. I'm saying hopefully he can put his time in with the weights and that strength can help him on the field.
1. CB – Marcus Peters – Washington – 6/190
2. OG – Josue Matias – Florida State – 6-6/320
3. OLB – Geneo Grissom – Oklahoma – 6-4/250
4. DL – Ellis McCarthy – UCLA – 6-5/330
5. TE – Jeff Heurman – Ohio State – 6-5/255
6. FS – Adrian Amos – Penn State – 6/200
7. DT – Terry Williams – East Carolina – 6-1/340
UDFA
DB – Justin Cox – Mississippi St. – 6-2/190
OLB – Davis Tull – Chattanooga – 6-2/242
I agree that being in the weight room wasn't James weakness BUT the fact is that he didn't come to the NFL with a lot of technique. His one technique requires more than just bp strength. JJ may be weaker but he has a lot more technique than what James came into the NFL with. If you are going to beat LEGIT LT in the NFL, you have to have more than gaudy BP numbers.
The JH story is well known: He had trouble learning the systems, even to the point of him taking himself off the field during practice, reportedly saying, "I can't f----g understand what I am supposed to do" at Steelers' camp. But least we forget, it all came together so well for him that he won DMVP of the entire league at one point. In his prime, he was the very best OLB that the Steelers ever had. I have no doubt.
You know who is a beast in the weight room?
Ziggy Hood...
Jones did 20 reps on the bench. For a comparison, Warren Sapp did 17.
That is exactly my point.
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