04-17-2014, 07:49 PM
I could name some that are better than Timmons but that wasn't my point. My comment was in response to Ovi's.... about Timmons running with a WR in training camp.
Originally Posted by RobinCole
04-17-2014, 08:26 PM
If you are not concerned, then you are ignoring a lot of signs. The only sign that he'll be a good player, is his production in college. He is slow, as evidenced by producing the slowest 40 time in memory for a 1st round LB. So (1), he is slow. He is also, by his own admission, not strong enough (2). And the last thing of course being, he was a non-factor, actually playing in the league in question (the NFL). Remember also, he was supposed to be plug-and-play ready. Even if he ended up not being so, you would certainly expect him to have flashes of success (i.e. a few sacks?)
I'm not writing him off yet, but I am concerned. How can you not be?
04-17-2014, 08:33 PM
I'm not at all concerned. I think he is going to be a playermaker for us. He has a knack for being around the ball and natural instincts and thats something you can't teach and something for important than some stupid 40 time in shorts.
Originally Posted by Shoe
Strength is a non-issue.... That is the easiest to fix. Timmons was the same way.
04-17-2014, 09:04 PM
Hall of Famer
1. If a LB has to run 40 yards for any reason, something went totally wrong anyways.
2. Like Steelz said, strength can easily be fixed.
3. Plug n play ready in a very complex system like LeBeau's is never going to happen.
I sincerely believe he can produce at this level by hitting the gym and studying the playbook. He's a natural athlete and you can easily see that by watching him play.
04-17-2014, 10:42 PM
Strength is easily fixed?
If that is the case, why aren't we drafting Aaron Donald, putting him in the weight room, and let him plug the middle (on 1st & 2nd) and rush the passer (on 3rd)? You know the reason why... because it isn't as "easy" as getting a guy on a bench press. Many people get stronger, and lose speed. For Jones, that would be a disaster.
04-17-2014, 10:43 PM
wasn't james harrison really slow coming out of college? wasn't he too small? wasn't he too weak? didn't he only have one move? how'd that work out?
04-17-2014, 10:44 PM
I seriously DOUBT James Harrison was ever considered weak.
Originally Posted by birtikidis
04-17-2014, 11:37 PM
I don't see why your associating gaining strength and losing speed. I dropped 25 pounds and was stronger than I was when I was heavier. If you bulk up.. then yes, you might get a bit slower but not necessarily. It depends...
Originally Posted by Shoe
I don't see how JJ gaining strength will make him slower. In fact, I think he could add a bit more bulk as well without losing speed. He has the frame to easily carry 10 more pounds of lean muscle. He's taller than most think: 6'2.
04-18-2014, 12:14 AM
I agree...not really worried about him.
Originally Posted by steelz09
04-18-2014, 12:47 AM
Troy Polamalu was a non-factor in his rookie season.
Pittsburgh, PA: City of Champions.