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    so its okay to say a guy is gonna be a pro bowler in a few years based on a hunch but it isnt okay to call the guy a bust for what he has actually proven on the field thus far? interesting
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    Quote Originally Posted by squidkid View Post
    so its okay to say a guy is gonna be a pro bowler in a few years based on a hunch but it isnt okay to call the guy a bust for what he has actually proven on the field thus far? interesting
    How dare we think positive about a player on our team? Shame on us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squidkid View Post
    so its okay to say a guy is gonna be a pro bowler in a few years based on a hunch but it isnt okay to call the guy a bust for what he has actually proven on the field thus far? interesting
    I would say the answer to both of those questions is "NO". We make too many snap judgments on a player after only a few games. You need to give a player a few years to show what he has ... and even then he might need to get some breaks. I'd be willing to bet none of us would have ever heard of Tom Brady if Drew Bledsoe doesn't go down with an injury. Player selection and evaluation is a crapshoot and nobody is perfect at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SidSmythe View Post
    Alluding to the only sack Jarvis Jones' rookie year (which came vs. CJ Spiller) ....this was my biggest concern with Jones coming out of college.

    Looking at his sacks in college, they all came against RBs or stunts. I couldn't find hardly any of him beating OT's 1 on 1 other than coverage sacks.
    BUT as for just plain old beating an OT 1 on 1 ... I didn't see it.
    I have the same opinion. The sacks I saw in college were "tenacity sacks" where the QB would hold the ball and eventually Jones just kept working to get to him. I can't recall a consistent number of sacks where he just beat OTs on a regular basis because of his pass rush techniques and blew past the OT. Could be wrong but we'll find out over the next season or two.
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    He needed to get stronger, we knew that. hes relentless in pursuit though, that should make up for his lack of explosion.

    Would still rather have him over mingo, jordan, or werner

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    I watched a lot of game tape on Jarvis and most of his sacks in college (Senior year) came from stunts and then coverage sacks 2nd. He didnt beat an OT for a sack, unless it was more then 4 seconds and that only happened twice his Senior year. He does have a big motor. His problem in college was the same as it is now, strength. If he gains some muscle and about 15 - 20 lbs, he'll be good.

    BTW, you can go to youtube and search Jarvis Jones which will show you every game his Senior year and each video shows only defensive snaps with Jarvis on the field. It's very convenient for this discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelCrazy View Post
    I watched a lot of game tape on Jarvis and most of his sacks in college (Senior year) came from stunts and then coverage sacks 2nd. He didnt beat an OT for a sack, unless it was more then 4 seconds and that only happened twice his Senior year. He does have a big motor. His problem in college was the same as it is now, strength. If he gains some muscle and about 15 - 20 lbs, he'll be good.

    BTW, you can go to youtube and search Jarvis Jones which will show you every game his Senior year and each video shows only defensive snaps with Jarvis on the field. It's very convenient for this discussion.
    It sounds like he needs Deebo as a lifting buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar View Post
    It sounds like he needs Deebo as a lifting buddy.
    Exactly. We need to sign him yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    I have the same opinion. The sacks I saw in college were "tenacity sacks" where the QB would hold the ball and eventually Jones just kept working to get to him. I can't recall a consistent number of sacks where he just beat OTs on a regular basis because of his pass rush techniques and blew past the OT. Could be wrong but we'll find out over the next season or two.
    Blew past LTs? You mean like top 5 pick Dion Jordan? A guy with his type of speed? He really lit things up his rookie year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelz09 View Post
    Blew past LTs? You mean like top 5 pick Dion Jordan? A guy with his type of speed? He really lit things up his rookie year.
    But...but...that can't be!!!

    The only rookies who ever underperform are Steelers rookies...because they have to learn a whole new position!!!

    Not like Dion Jordan or Barkevious Mingo...

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