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    Ben Roethlisberger makes his WRs better

    Through their first eight games...


    Antonio Brown:
    61 catches, 701 yards, 3 TD
    Emmanuel Sanders: 37 catches, 494 yards, 2 TD
    Jerricho Cotchery: 29 catches, 424 yards, 5 TD

    Mike Wallace: 36 catches, 480 yards, TD


    Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders have more catches, more yards and more TDs through their first eight games than Mike Wallace does. Emmanuel Sanders and Jerricho Cotchery have more yards per catch. All three have more TDs. Clearly, Ben Roethlisberger makes his WRs better.

    With that said, a tall, thick WR should help open the offense up even more.
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    Ben is clearly a better qb than Tannenhill, and he does make his WR's better, but not to the extent that a guy like Brady or Manning do. Having said that, Ben is improving almost the same way those guys did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by birtikidis View Post
    Ben is clearly a better qb than Tannenhill, and he does make his WR's better, but not to the extent that a guy like Brady or Manning do. Having said that, Ben is improving almost the same way those guys did.
    I think Ben's career arc is very similar to John Elway's. Early success followed by a lull then ending with a bang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    I think Ben's career arc is very similar to John Elway's. Early success followed by a lull then ending with a bang.
    If that's true, do you trust the Steelers enough to set him up for success later on? Right now, I have my doubts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlitzTo7 View Post
    If that's true, do you trust the Steelers enough to set him up for success later on? Right now, I have my doubts.

    I have zero doubts they can. I fully expected this season to be a tough one. You can only draft at the bottom of each round for so long before it effects you plus unlike the Patriots we have been too obsessed with keeping our aging veterans. This has put us in cap hell which has limited our flexibility to respond to serious issues like our OL. Fix the OL and this team immediately becomes much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    I have zero doubts they can. I fully expected this season to be a tough one. You can only draft at the bottom of each round for so long before it effects you plus unlike the Patriots we have been too obsessed with keeping our aging veterans. This has put us in cap hell which has limited our flexibility to respond to serious issues like our OL. Fix the OL and this team immediately becomes much better.
    They need more talent and need to control their salary cap, but there's more that needs to be done. The Steelers are poorly coached and keep trying to play a style of football that no longer exists. Will they be willing to cut loose the coaches that haven't been doing their jobs? Will they be willing to adjust their philosophies to fit that of the modern era NFL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by birtikidis View Post
    .....but not to the extent that a guy like Brady or Manning do.
    This is as lame as it gets right here!!!! Ben does not get to run the same offense that those two do. He has never been given control of his offense like those two have. In fact Ben's organization has tried to reel him in and change him. Case in point, bringing in Haley and asking the square peg Ben to fit into Haley's round hole offense.

    And Ben has never ever had a WR the caliber of these three...

    Reggie Wayne 104 receptions 1510 yards 10 TD's
    Marvin Harrison 143 receptions and 1722 yards in 2002
    Randy Moss 23 TD's in 2007
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    But so what given the Steelers are trading Ben (sarcasm)
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    Ben makes his receivers much better. With most QBs behind this line, the receivers would have about three seconds to get open before they must be prepared to see the ball. Ben often gives them 7-8 seconds to shake the defender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o. View Post
    Ben makes his receivers much better. With most QBs behind this line, the receivers would have about three seconds to get open before they must be prepared to see the ball. Ben often gives them 7-8 seconds to shake the defender.
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    Ben buys time, over & over & over to allow these WR's to get open. Few WR's in this league have that fortune. But it comes at a cost- and that cost is paid for by the 5 guys in front of Ben.

    The result of having to buy time for the WR's is that Ben's sack totals are blown out of proportion.

    Imagine how many sacks fewer we'd see if some of these WR's were open after 3 seconds, or if they were viable targets even when covered.

    Not saying the WR's on the roster are bad, but they certainly don't do Ben or the OL any favours.
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