Don't confuse me hating you with me thinking you have a questionable eye for talent and a ridiculous concept of reality in today's NFL. The fact that you are comparing the Georgia D playbook as comparable to the Steelers is comical to say the least. Do you talk to college coaches each year? Have you been inside a college program recently? If you have you would know that a college weekly install has roughly half the plays of an NFL team. Please stop boring me with your weekly trade Ben and draft garbage crap. If we listened to you we would have drafted Rahim Moore and Matt Barley as first rounders.
2014 Steelers Draft Trade 1/15 to SF for 1/30,2/56 & 4/135
1) Jordan Mathews-WR-Vandy
2) Chris Borland-ILB-Wisc
2) Pierre Desir-CB-Lindenwood
3c) Daniel McCullers-DT-Tenn
4) Cameron Flemming-OT-Stanford
4) Lache Seastrunk-RB-Baylor
4c) Prince Shembo-OLB-ND
5) Xavier Grimble-TE-USC
6) Aaron Colvin-CB-Oklahoma
7) Henry Josey-RB-Mizzou
I still think somehow the Steelers will let him coach til the day he dies. Heck we might even go all Weekend At Bernies with him and have some guys walking him around the sideline as a puppet whenever his time comes.
with him as DC will all our high F**king picks be LBs??
the guy has two #1 picks and two 2nd round picks in his unit and they are below average (sacks, turnover etc etc). how much high end talent does he need to coach a good unit. for christs sake at least the OL has an excuse that they are pretty young. what's the LBs excuse?
yes, he was promised to take over for DL. pretty sure he was given a bigger contract too for staying with them, so hopefully the extra money cushions the blow when they hire someone else.
IMO, he certainly wont be back if there is a head coaching change like some of you are hoping for
Last edited by NJ-STEELER; 11-06-2013 at 12:03 AM.
Bulter wanted to draft Arthur Brown in Rd 2 IIRC...
Butler would want 4 Rd-1 LBers for Steelers and they still will struggle to see the field. Two Rd 1 and Two Rd 2 picks and Steelers LB unit is not even average. Maybe it is the coaching.
Time for Steelers to look outside the organization for DC.
Rd 1: Mike Evans - WR
Rd 2: Kyle Van Noy - ILB/OLB
Rd 3c: Terrence Brooks - FS
Rd 4: Justin Ellis - DT
Rd 5: Pierre Desir - CB
Rd 5c:Xavier Grimble -TE
I think that the discussion of whether or not Butler should be the next DC based on the number of linebackers that he has developed is flawed. As DC, he would not be required to develop linebackers anymore, that job would fall onto the new position coach, so I don't care if he is good at it anymore, unless the question becomes "Would you retain Keith Butler as linebackers coach?"
This is the same flawed logic that gets head coaching jobs for outstanding position coaches like Wade Phillips and Norv Turner, taking them away from what they actually do very well.
If Butler is to become the DC, then I want to know his overall defensive philosophy, and the roles that he would set forth for the players he already knows so well. Would he step into an interview and state "I am a Lebeau disciple, so I would not make any fundamental changes"? Would he tweak the system? "I would insert a big body like Fangupo into the nose position and force the offense outside into my rushing linebackers"? Would he scrap the 3-4 altogether and switch to a 4-3, or some hybrid D of his own invention that accounts for the onslaught of passing in today's NFL?
These are the types of questions that I want answered by a DC candidate, because his ability to develop linebackers would become much less relevant at that point.
I never suggested that the Steelers should draft Rahim Moore or Matt Barkley with a first round pick. What I said was, they were both 1st round talents in my opinion. But this is you again saying stuff that I never said. That is who you are.
Say what you want about me, I have enough integrity to never personally attack another here, or misquote them.
Steelers 2014 Draft
1--Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma State
2--Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
3-- -- Traded --
3B--C.J. Fiedorwicz TE Iowa
4--Ed Reynolds FS Stanford
5--Michael Schofield OT Michigan
6--Jordan Tripp ILB Montana
7--Kadeem Edwards OG Tennessee State
Playing Fantasy Football does not qualify you to be the in the front office or on the coaching staff of the Pittsburgh Steelers. They are professionals and you are not!
1. Eric Ebron, TE
2. Calvin Pryor, S
3 (Comp). Jaylen Watkins, CB
4. Justin Ellis, DT/NT
5a. Brandon Coleman, WR
5b. Brent Urban, DE
6. Prince Shembo, OLB
7a. Aaron Colvin, CB
7b. Storm Johnson, RB