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    Slow Decline over Roethlisberger's Career

    An interesting stat to track over Roethlisberger's career; points per possession minute...(These are team offensive stats but Roethlisberger was the QB for the majority of this time.)

    2004: 0.685
    2005: 0.767
    2006: 0.702
    2007: 0.735
    2008: 0.684
    2009: 0.701
    2010: 0.724
    2011: 0.625
    2012: 0.652
    2013: 0.590

    the 2011 number likely got BA fired. If you go through the effort,a plot will show the gradual decline throughout Roethlisberger's career starting from 2005.

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    It is indeed interesting. It would be interesting to be able to compare this stat to other QBs of various interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoe View Post
    It is indeed interesting. It would be interesting to be able to compare this stat to other QBs of various interest.
    took a quick look at Brady and Brees and as expected they show a general upward trend over the same period. and you can argue Brady has done more with less over that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    took a quick look at Brady and Brees and as expected they show a general upward trend over the same period. and you can argue Brady has done more with less over that time.
    It completely coincides with what our eyes see too, at least when it comes to Ben. I'd then be curious, if you could look back at QBs with similar playing styles to Ben. I'm thinking John Elway, who I believe had a bit of a decline in his late career until TD and Shanahan came (i.e. Bell/Haley?)

    We are at a precarious time. Ben can still play, but we can't tie ourselves too him too much, &/or count on him to consistently pull rabbits out of hats, or even carry us anymore. It is great that we have a potential "Bellcow" in place... But the shift in focus must come; otherwise, we should say bye bye to Ben (i.e. move on from him) and look for a QB who has that franchise-carrying ability now (which would mean, no Jake Matthews this year).

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    Our lack of turnovers recently and thus not having short fields to work in may skue something like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron City Inc. View Post
    Our lack of turnovers recently and thus not having short fields to work in may skue something like this.
    No, our inability to score in the redzone is what skews this stat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron City Inc. View Post
    Our lack of turnovers recently and thus not having short fields to work in may skue something like this.
    Ben got the short field against the Raiders. And did nothing with it.

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    Todd Haley is not looking too impressive on that list. I have to imagine there is a lot more team built into that figure than putting it all on Big Ben. You have to look at it more symptomatic of an overall Steeler decline than pointing to BB as the disease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Discipline of Steel View Post
    Todd Haley is not looking too impressive on that list. I have to imagine there is a lot more team built into that figure than putting it all on Big Ben. You have to look at it more symptomatic of an overall Steeler decline than pointing to BB as the disease.
    While there have been many changes over the years with this team (OL, WRs, RBs...etc), the one constant is the QB.

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    How about looking at our awful Running Game over those years. So far this year Tom Brady has NO ONE to throw to but the Patriots top 3 RBs are averaging 4.5/carry. It certainly helps to be able to run the ball in order to pass the ball and overall score points.
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