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    With all respect - are the coach haters feeling differently after these past two game

    (PS - this post is a snark-free zone!)

    We beat two teams that don't suck (after all the Jets just beat the *s), we've shown some creativity (Wildcat, anyone?), there seems to be some discipline on the team that was lacking before, and individual performances are getting better and better (ref: Ben). Additionally to that, we seem to be one of the least penalized teams in the league.

    My feeling is that it was mainly lack of personnel - no Heath, no Bell, no Pouncey, who else am I missing - even if Noll/Lombardi/Landry were coaching we would have been hosed. But now with folks coming back ...

    But for you guys that thought it was mainly coaching and wanted Tomlin/Haley/Bicknell/LeBeau fired ... are you feeling more optimistic?


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    IMHO, there was a tremendous leadership vacuum that was started in 2011 and is ongoing...coaching can help, but players need to make plays and players need to lead on the field...

    Just as Cowher went through a difficult transition as his personnel turned over, Tomlin is experiencing something similar...I think that his tendency not to freak out is helpful in this case...a steady hand is needed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    IMHO, there was a tremendous leadership vacuum that was started in 2011 and is ongoing...coaching can help, but players need to make plays and players need to lead on the field...

    Just as Cowher went through a difficult transition as his personnel turned over, Tomlin is experiencing something similar...I think that his tendency not to freak out is helpful in this case...a steady hand is needed...
    I agree for the most part. There was a leadership void...and that has to be taken up by the players...and can be helped by strong coaching. With that said, there have been times when Tomlin has looked like a deer in headlights...just beat up...no answers. If Tomlin can turn this club around, in my mind he will have answered some HUGE questions about his coaching ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    IMHO, there was a tremendous leadership vacuum that was started in 2011 and is ongoing...coaching can help, but players need to make plays and players need to lead on the field...

    Just as Cowher went through a difficult transition as his personnel turned over, Tomlin is experiencing something similar...I think that his tendency not to freak out is helpful in this case...a steady hand is needed...
    Not freak out? He took away ping pong, air hockey, the ball pit, and unlimited refills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jigawatts View Post
    Not freak out? He took away ping pong, air hockey, the ball pit, and unlimited refills.
    Sorry. I had forgotten that he had taken such extreme measures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jigawatts View Post
    Not freak out? He took away ping pong, air hockey, the ball pit, and unlimited refills.
    it seemed to work.

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    I'm not feeling any different about LeBeau. I believe his time has come to step down. I'm a bit less angry with Tomlin and Haley. I'm willing to now let the season play out before I take another stance on either. But, IMO both are still on the hot seat...it's just a little less hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn View Post
    I'm not feeling any different about LeBeau. I believe his time has come to step down. I'm a bit less angry with Tomlin and Haley. I'm willing to now let the season play out before I take another stance on either. But, IMO both are still on the hot seat...it's just a little less hot.
    I would agree about Haley but I thought the playcalling yesterday was much better. LeBeau is past his "sell by date."

    Tomlin is not on the hotseat. He will be here at least another 4-5 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    I would agree about Haley but I thought the playcalling yesterday was much better. LeBeau is past his "sell by date."

    Tomlin is not on the hotseat. He will be here at least another 4-5 years.
    During our "win streak" we are averaging 19-11 and the "offense" gets the love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn View Post
    I'm not feeling any different about LeBeau. I believe his time has come to step down. I'm a bit less angry with Tomlin and Haley. I'm willing to now let the season play out before I take another stance on either. But, IMO both are still on the hot seat...it's just a little less hot.
    I was actually thinking the exact opposite while at the game Sunday re: DL and TH. Steelers make tackles and DL's system works. It's personnel. 100%. I think people that want change want us to be more aggressive and I get that, but I'm not convinced that would work with our personnel. We still have to make tackles. And going aggressive might just put us in a worse position to give up more big plays and I dunno if we'd get enough turnovers to make up for it.

    Re: TH, our RZ play calling is still subpar. Our runs and passes are predictable. And he still seems unwilling to allow Ben to move the pocket to make plays. TH is so dead set on getting rid of the ball quickly and I do get how that should help, but I'm not sure if it jives completely with Ben's strengths. It really still feels like there's a struggle between what Haley wants to do and what Ben can do and I'm not sure they're the perfect fit together.

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