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    Ryan Clark: Big Ben should tone things down

    Clark: Big Ben should tone things down

    October 10, 2013
    By Ray Fittipaldo / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

    Veteran safety Ryan Clark did not back down from comments he made on ESPN on the Steelers' bye week that quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has to "tone down" his game if the Steelers are going to be successful.

    Clark said Roethlisberger has a tendency to improvise too much at times and that style might have something to do with the team's first 0-4 start since 1968.

    "We have to tone Ben down in a sense and say, 'Hey, right now, we're not a good enough football team for you to try to extend plays, for us to take sacks, for us to have turnovers,' " Clark said on ESPN.

    Clark was asked Wednesday to clarify his remarks.

    "When asked a question about Ben, I said, we need to protect Ben," Clark said. "And, when I say that, [I mean] defense, we need to make plays so he doesn't feel like he has to do everything. Offensively, we need to protect him so he can get the ball out on his fifth step; receivers need to get open, running backs need to run the ball.

    "But, in that as well, I feel like he needs to understand that, as constructed right now, we aren't playing well enough right now as a team to where we can take sacks and have turnovers. So, as a team, that's a team solution.

    "But the quarterback has to spearhead it. He's our guy, he's our leader, he makes the plays, he's the reason we have two Super Bowl wins and been to three. We have to find ways to help him not feel like he has to do that."

    When told of Clark's comments, Roethlisberger said he is not going to change his style.

    "I didn't hear about [that]," Roethlisberger said. "It is what it is. I'm just going to play the game the way that I play it and try not to turn it over."

    When asked if he appreciated a teammate commenting on his play, Roethlisberger responded: "That's the great thing about this country we live in. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and allowed to say what they want. If Ryan feels that way, then that's fine."

    It was the second consecutive week that there has been some back and forth between two of the team's captains. After the Steelers lost to the Minnesota Vikings to fall to 0-4, Roethlisberger said the Steelers might be the worst team in the league. Clark said Roethlisberger was being "dramatic" when he said that. Roethlisberger later clarified his comments and said he was viewing it strictly from a win-loss perspective.

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    Clark is absolutely right but again... the media isn't the best way to express that FACT.

    Ben can continue to be Ben and hopefully he doesn't turnover the ball but that surely has been the trend. And he'll continue to take unnecessary sacks as well which put him in 3rd and long situations that we won't convert.

    Maybe, Ben should have said.. Yeah, I have to improve on my reads. I've watched some film and I have to find the open receiver quicker and deliver the ball accurately. Instead, he comes off as a hard headed prick. Obviously, he doesn't give a damn that the sandlot style hasn't been treating him well for quite some time now.

    On a side note, I did like Roethlisberger's comment about us being the worst team in the league right now. The Jaguars are #1 and we aren't that far behind. The record is what counts and our record clearly shows we are one of the worst teams in the league.

    Worse than the Browns, Raiders, Vikings, Cardinals, Redskins, Titans, Rams, etc...... That is pretty BAD.

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    Or maybe Clark should shut up and worry about how many tackles he's missed. Nah, because then we can't blame it all on the QB.

    Ryan Clark is part of the poison on the Steelers. The sooner he's gone, the better off Pittsburgh will be. He's nothing but a selfish asshat.

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    Clark has played too poorly this season to talk. I say start Shamarko. He will struggle, but it will accelerate his education. Get any kid with promise in the game as much as possible including Shark, Moye, Beachum, and Fangupo. We should not be signing vets like Brown, Allen, and Sly. We should be raiding practice squads and looking for young gems ( even if they are future depth players). We need to shed salary and get younger quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelblood View Post
    Clark has played too poorly this season to talk. I say start Shamarko. He will struggle, but it will accelerate his education. Get any kid with promise in the game as much as possible including Shark, Moye, Beachum, and Fangupo. We should not be signing vets like Brown, Allen, and Sly. We should be raiding practice squads and looking for young gems ( even if they are future depth players). We need to shed salary and get younger quickly.
    I very much agree with you. What do we have to lose at this point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlitzTo7 View Post
    Or maybe Clark should shut up and worry about how many tackles he's missed. Nah, because then we can't blame it all on the QB.

    Ryan Clark is part of the poison on the Steelers. The sooner he's gone, the better off Pittsburgh will be. He's nothing but a selfish asshat.
    Yeah! That's the same thing some of you said about Hines Ward for attempting to hold Ben accountable for his idiotic performances. I mean, how dare someone call out Ben, it's not his fault our offense stinks

    Ryan Clark has been a great steeler and he's probably echoing what the majority of the team feels right now. In a year or two Clark will be sitting at the commentary desk laughing at pitiful Ben the same way Hines Ward and Bill Cowher is probably doing now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by williar View Post
    Yeah! That's the same thing some of you said about Hines Ward for attempting to hold Ben accountable for his idiotic performances. I mean, how dare someone call out Ben, it's not his fault our offense stinks

    Ryan Clark has been a great steeler and he's probably echoing what the majority of the team feels right now. In a year or two Clark will be sitting at the commentary desk laughing at pitiful Ben the same way Hines Ward and Bill Cowher is probably doing now.
    Clark will be sitting at said desk because he realizes he sucks now and won't have a job in the NFL next year.

    How dare someone call out Clark for his idiocy and locker room dividing comments. If he plays for the vaunted Stiller defense he can say anything he wants about the franchise QB! That's yinzer mentality right there. Always alienate the QB when you can. Same thing happened with Bradshaw.

    The majority of the team probably thinks Clark is an asshat and would like the Rooneys to cut or trade him. Hell, considering where this season is going, getting a draft pick for Clark seems like a really good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlitzTo7 View Post
    Or maybe Clark should shut up and worry about how many tackles he's missed. Nah, because then we can't blame it all on the QB.

    Ryan Clark is part of the poison on the Steelers. The sooner he's gone, the better off Pittsburgh will be. He's nothing but a selfish asshat.
    How in the hell do you get Ryan Clark is blaming it all on the QB from what he said? Was it from the part where he said "he (Ben) is our leader, the reason we've won 2 Super Bowls and gone to 3"? Or is the part where he says the defense needs to make some plays to help Ben out by providing a shorter field?

    You really need to read for better comprehension ... just an observation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelz09 View Post
    Clark is absolutely right but again... the media isn't the best way to express that FACT.

    Ben can continue to be Ben and hopefully he doesn't turnover the ball but that surely has been the trend. And he'll continue to take unnecessary sacks as well which put him in 3rd and long situations that we won't convert.

    Maybe, Ben should have said.. Yeah, I have to improve on my reads. I've watched some film and I have to find the open receiver quicker and deliver the ball accurately. Instead, he comes off as a hard headed prick. Obviously, he doesn't give a damn that the sandlot style hasn't been treating him well for quite some time now.

    On a side note, I did like Roethlisberger's comment about us being the worst team in the league right now. The Jaguars are #1 and we aren't that far behind. The record is what counts and our record clearly shows we are one of the worst teams in the league.

    Worse than the Browns, Raiders, Vikings, Cardinals, Redskins, Titans, Rams, etc...... That is pretty BAD.
    You know what else is FACT? Clark sucks, and Ben is the best player on the team. You know what else is FACT? The sooner Clark is gone, the better.

    I know, you hate the franchise QB. You want live in your own little bubble where it's all about running and defense and the QB is just a game manager unless he has to bail the team out in the last two minutes from their own stupidity. You want to believe the rest of the team is fine and Ben is the only problem. You really do come off as the typical cranky old yinzer that sits in a bar and complains endlessly about how Ben sucks or how the NFL sucks for being a pass-first league. I suggest quitting while you're ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlitzTo7 View Post
    You know what else is FACT? Clark sucks, and Ben is the best player on the team. You know what else is FACT? The sooner Clark is gone, the better.

    I know, you hate the franchise QB. You want live in your own little bubble where it's all about running and defense and the QB is just a game manager unless he has to bail the team out in the last two minutes from their own stupidity. You want to believe the rest of the team is fine and Ben is the only problem. You really do come off as the typical cranky old yinzer that sits in a bar and complains endlessly about how Ben sucks or how the NFL sucks for being a pass-first league. I suggest quitting while you're ahead.
    Actually.... you couldn't be more wrong but I wouldn't expect more from you.

    Obviously, you haven't read many of my posts if you believe that I think Ben is the only problem.

    I want a QB that can find a open receiver if his 1st receiver isn't open. You know, a true franchise QB like Drew Brees would be nice. Yea, I'm a fan of Drew Brees because we all know, he's a game manager QB on a run first offense that this old yinzer loves. lol. I want a QB that isn't going to be completely reckless with the ball. At least our 100m franchise QB has less turnovers than rookie Geno Smith. Now, thats a success story.

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