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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    What kind of excellence did Cowher achieve in 1998, 1999 and 2000?
    the time noll's players were gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-STEELER View Post
    the time noll's players were gone
    Yep. This is what I've been saying...

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    Let's just take a look at WhoTF inherited what? Does anyone not agree that Cowher inherited the 1991 roster? IDTS!
    1 Gary Anderson----------82-94 In League Many More Years
    60 Brian Blankenship-----87-91
    94 Jeff Brady--------------91------ILMMY
    6 Bubby Brister-----------86-92 ILMMY
    61 Dean Caliguire---------91-92
    88 Chris Calloway---------90-91 ILMMY
    85 Keith Cash-------------91 -----IL til 96
    87 Adrian Cooper---------91-93--IL til 96
    64 Kenny Davidson-------90-93--IL til 96
    63 Dermontti Dawson
    66 Donald Evans---------90-93--IL til 95
    27 Thomas Everett-------87-91-IL til 95
    29 Barry Foster----------90-94
    81 Jeff Graham----------91-93 IL til 2001
    86 Eric Green------------90-94 IL til 1999
    22 Larry Griffin----------87-93
    35 Delton Hall-----------87-91 IL til 92
    77 Carlton Haselrig-----90-93 IL til 95
    53 Bryan Hinkle---------82-93
    33 Merril Hoge----------87-93 IL til 94
    62 Tunch Ilkin-----------80-92 IL til 93
    65 John Jackson--------88-97 IL til 01
    44 D.J. Johnson---------88-93 IL til 96
    97 Aaron Jones---------88-92 IL til 96
    25 Gary Jones----------90-94 IL til 96
    37 Carnell Lake-------- 89-98 IL til 01
    83 Louis Lipps----------84-91 IL til 92
    50 David Little----------81-92
    95 Greg Lloyd-----------88-97 IL til 98
    74 Terry Long-----------84-91
    56 Rob McGovern-------89-92
    89 Ernie Mills------------91-96 IL til 99
    84 Mike Mularkey-------89-91 IL 83-88 Min
    54 Hardy Nickerson----87 -92 IL til 02
    14 Neil O'Donnell-------90-95 IL til 03
    55 Jerry Olsavsky------89-97 IL til 98
    90 Huey Richardson----91-92
    71 Tom Ricketts---------89-91 IL til 94
    24 Richard Shelton------90-93
    41 Kevin A. Smith-------91
    57 Jerrol Williams-------
    42 Warren Williams
    93 Keith Willis
    68 Mike Withycombe
    26 Rod Woodson*

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    Very few of the above players were around long enough to help anyone win anything.

    This comparison is really not valid.

    What should be getting compared are the new players brought in by each coach that helped win games. That is probably what the so called MT/Colbert detractors are really concerned about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyplay1 View Post
    Very few of the above players were around long enough to help anyone win anything.

    This comparison is really not valid.

    What should be getting compared are the new players brought in by each coach that helped win games. That is probably what the so called MT/Colbert detractors are really concerned about.
    Those first few years, Cowher's team went to a SB, but really didn't win anything...

    The comparison is not who won what with the "inherited players"...the comparison is what happened after the inherited players left the team...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    What kind of excellence did Cowher achieve in 1998, 1999 and 2000?
    the time noll's players were gone


    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-STEELER View Post
    the time noll's players were gone
    Yep. This is what I've been saying..

    This has been a fun thread, maybe a bit pointless but nonetheless fun. But these last few posts gave me an idea.

    What just occurred to me was "How is it that if Cowher won with Noll's players, why did they not win before Cowher?

    In 91 7-9 In 90 9-7 In 89 9-7 In 88 5-11 Uhh! ????

    Okay! That does it for me with this stuff, onward to the Jets.
    Here we go Steelers Here we go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyplay1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    What kind of excellence did Cowher achieve in 1998, 1999 and 2000?
    the time noll's players were gone


    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-STEELER View Post
    the time noll's players were gone
    Yep. This is what I've been saying..

    This has been a fun thread, maybe a bit pointless but nonetheless fun. But these last few posts gave me an idea.

    What just occurred to me was "How is it that if Cowher won with Noll's players, why did they not win before Cowher?

    In 91 7-9 In 90 9-7 In 89 9-7 In 88 5-11 Uhh! ????

    Okay! That does it for me with this stuff, onward to the Jets.
    Here we go Steelers Here we go!
    Tomlin took over an 8-8 team...it doesn't mean the players weren't talented...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    Tomlin took over an 8-8 team...it doesn't mean the players weren't talented...
    That 8-8 season a lot to do with Ben's performance as well. Prior to that season, Ben implanted his face on a car's winshield and almost died.
    Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelz09 View Post
    That 8-8 season a lot to do with Ben's performance as well. Prior to that season, Ben implanted his face on a car's winshield and almost died.
    Last season's 8-8 record had a lot to do with Ben's performance...

    As does this year's 0-4 record to date...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    Those first few years, Cowher's team went to a SB, but really didn't win anything...

    The comparison is not who won what with the "inherited players"...the comparison is what happened after the inherited players left the team...
    Tomlin is losing his inherited team... how is that working out? And like I've said before and you always ignore: The 95 team was almost devoid of Noll's talent. I know you like to pick the 98,99, and 00 team and say that is what happened because Cowher lost his inherited team. But that is BS. They were mostly gone by 95'. Again 3 defensive players on defense in 95'. Tomlin had 8 of his defensive players from Cowher just a couple years ago. I know you'll avoid that and go on about those bad Cowher years. Those were also the years when Cowher was in a power struggle with Donahoe. Something else you'll avoid. It was also the time when the team had to let FAs walk because they couldn't afford them. Again you'll avoid that and put it on these phantom "Noll" players.

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