Is LeBeau this senile?

[Shoe]

No disrespect but it's funny how no one brings up talent...and this D has holes all over the place. Change will be coming sooner rather than later but I don't see much room for improvement with this cast of characters. A pig is still a pig no matter how you dress it up.

That is true, but the talent here isn't zero takeaway, 4 sacks in 4 games poor. Alabama could probably have given more output there.

[Shawn]

Is it talent or scheme? I mean from a talent perspective it appears we have some players. Heyward, Keisel, Timmons, Jones, Woodley, Ike, Troy, Clark...geez these guys should be able to play. What is the deal?

[feltdizz]

The Steelers rarely kept a player past their second contract until the recent group. The reason wasn't as much a shift in philosophy as it was a shift in talent. Ziggy Hood has showed us why the Steelers tried to hang on to Smith. McClendon shows us why Hampton stuck around.

The Steelers don't have the talent in the pipeline that they did in years past.

Yep... and this is why change is needed.

[phillyesq]

Yep... and this is why change is needed.

What does that even mean?

A lot of these guys are crap players in any scheme. I don't care if you put Hood, Worilds, McClendon, etc. in a 4-3, a 3-4, or whatever. They will still stink.

[Steelhere10]

The Steelers rarely kept a player past their second contract until the recent group. The reason wasn't as much a shift in philosophy as it was a shift in talent. Ziggy Hood has showed us why the Steelers tried to hang on to Smith. McClendon shows us why Hampton stuck around.

The Steelers don't have the talent in the pipeline that they did in years past.

I agree and they have never brought back so many retreads, but the last several years instead of bringing in quality FA they opt for rejects. Foote, Gay Burress, Spaeth all come to mind.

[feltdizz]

What does that even mean?

A lot of these guys are crap players in any scheme. I don't care if you put Hood, Worilds, McClendon, etc. in a 4-3, a 3-4, or whatever. They will still stink.

It means change the way we draft and change the scheme... what we are doing isn't working.

[NJ-STEELER]

Ever think that the lack of talent might have something to do with our crap defense?

Theres high picks all over the front 7.

Solid corner in Ike and a HOFer at safety?

Does he need a #1 draft pick at every position to get one turnover??

[NJ-STEELER]

What does that even mean?

A lot of these guys are crap players in any scheme. I don't care if you put Hood, Worilds, McClendon, etc. in a 4-3, a 3-4, or whatever. They will still stink.

Not sure what the hell they saw in hood and worldis in the first place. To boot it wasnt even an area of tremendous need and both picks back fired on us

[Oviedo]

The Steelers rarely kept a player past their second contract until the recent group. The reason wasn't as much a shift in philosophy as it was a shift in talent. Ziggy Hood has showed us why the Steelers tried to hang on to Smith. McClendon shows us why Hampton stuck around.

The Steelers don't have the talent in the pipeline that they did in years past.

But why is the the lack of talent, see the worst OL in the NFL, not recognized when criticizing Haley (or previously Arians) by the same posters using it as an excuse for LeBeau?

[Slapstick]

But why is the the lack of talent, see the worst OL in the NFL, not recognized when criticizing Haley (or previously Arians) by the same posters using it as an excuse for LeBeau?

Because LeBeau has done a better job with the talent he has...

Again, it's hard for anyone to call a good defensive game when your offense turns it over in the red zone and you are constantly down by 10 points...