Ben is one of the problems.

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Show me a link where Ben was in the running for MVP in 07 and 09.

Here is the link for last season.

[url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/11/steelers-support-roethlisberger-for-mvp/[/url]

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Lot's of reasons.

Ben was off early.

Max Starks was 400 pounds.

Cedrick Wilson was starting and sucking. Then when they put Santonio Holmes in the starting lineup they finished 3-1.

Link showing Starks was 400 lbs??? Tom Brady is 3-0 with wrs worse than Wilson. Next excuse?

[PlanetSteelersNumber1Fan]

Show me a link where Ben was in the running for MVP in 07 and 09.

I don't care what people say, I know what I saw.

Btw, Phil Simms was campaigning for Ben to win the MVP in 2008.

And that Ben was no where near what 2007 or 2009 Ben were.

[PlanetSteelersNumber1Fan]

Link showing Starks was 400 lbs??? Tom Brady is 3-0 with wrs worse than Wilson. Next excuse?

Brady's defense forces turnovers.

They've saved his ass for 3 weeks.

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I don't care what people say, I know what I saw.

Btw, Phil Simms was campaigning for Ben to win the MVP in 2008.

And that Ben was no where near what 2007 or 2009 Ben were.

You mean you have no proof? I understand. Phill Simms??

UH Ben had TWENTY THREE TURNOVERS in 08 17tds and 15 ints with six lost fumbles. I HIGHLY DOUBT if Phil was saying that.

LINK?

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brady's defense forces turnovers.

They've saved his ass for 3 weeks.

next excuse?

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I don't care what people say, I know what I saw.

Btw, Phil Simms was campaigning for Ben to win the MVP in 2008.

And that Ben was no where near what 2007 or 2009 Ben were.

He doesnt care what people think but yet he LIES and cites Phill Simss. Didnt he just post "I dont care what people say?

OXYMORON

[PlanetSteelersNumber1Fan]

You mean you have no proof? I understand. Phill Simms??

UH Ben had TWENTY THREE TURNOVERS in 08 17tds and 15 ints with six lost fumbles. I HIGHLY DOUBT if Phil was saying that.

LINK?

Look it up. He was talking about the 4th quarter comebacks and the clutch play. He said if Ben would have won at Tennessee and got the #1 seed? He would vote him MVP.

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Back to work. Sigh

[PlanetSteelersNumber1Fan]

You lose. Two days before said 2008 Titans game.

[url]http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_seasonticket/2008/12/nfl-mvp-debate.html[/url]