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    Tomlin needs to step up and...

    The buck stops at Tomlin, he needs to step up to the plate and lead this team
    better than he has.

    He needs to focus on his strengths \ Talent and use that to his advantage. Forget what the Rooney's \ Management want.
    (They want to live in the past(running the ball) which is a mistake...)

    Even if it cost him his job he needs to believe, in what will work\win not what won't \ want to do...
    He needs to tell his coaches what kind of plays to call, Tell them!!! not ask them!!!

    If my reputation\ Coaches career is on the line I could care a less what the owners want.....
    Please fire me if you don't like it... but, I rather go down believing, in what I know will work then the other....

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    head coaches don't call plays... they let coordinators do that... and they get to fire them if they don't like the plays they call... except, he can't fire him. in a nutshell, that's the problem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerOfDeVille View Post
    head coaches don't call plays... they let coordinators do that... and they get to fire them if they don't like the plays they call... except, he can't fire him. in a nutshell, that's the problem...
    Sad to say I think Todd Haley will never be "fired" midseason. Looks like we have to wait the season out so the Steelers can work out a deal for him to leave w/out another embarrassment.
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerOfDeVille View Post
    head coaches don't call plays... they let coordinators do that... and they get to fire them if they don't like the plays they call... except, he can't fire him. in a nutshell, that's the problem...

    Exactly. Tomlin is the head coach, but he doesn't own the team. Like any corporate organization the guy at the top calls the shots and you execute within the guidelines provided. To say "forget what the Rooney's/Management want" is plain ridiculous.

    The problem we have right now with the OL (#1 source of our offensive issues) is much more on Colbert than Tomlin. Colbert went into this season with a wish and hope on the Offensive Line and ignored it in the draft. He controls the talent acqusition not Tomlin.

    If you are in NASCAR and the racing team owners give you cars with a six banger in them you aren't going to win any races no matter how much you tweak the engine or how good your driver is (Big Ben).

    As far as firing the coordinators, do you really think that accomplishes anything mid-season? Plus does anyone really think Tomlin ever had the ability to move on past LeBeau no matter how much he wanted to?
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    Exactly. Tomlin is the head coach, but he doesn't own the team. Like any corporate organization the guy at the top calls the shots and you execute within the guidelines provided. To say "forget what the Rooney's/Management want" is plain ridiculous.

    The problem we have right now with the OL (#1 source of our offensive issues) is much more on Colbert than Tomlin. Colbert went into this season with a wish and hope on the Offensive Line and ignored it in the draft. He controls the talent acqusition not Tomlin.

    If you are in NASCAR and the racing team owners give you cars with a six banger in them you aren't going to win any races no matter how much you tweak the engine or how good your driver is (Big Ben).

    As far as firing the coordinators, do you really think that accomplishes anything mid-season? Plus does anyone really think Tomlin ever had the ability to move on past LeBeau no matter how much he wanted to?
    Your missing the point...
    I'm a good programmer and I'm not going to have the owner of the company tell me how to program..thats absurd..
    I'm the expert not them..get it now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sword View Post
    Your missing the point...
    I'm a good programmer and I'm not going to have the owner of the company tell me how to program..thats absurd..
    I'm the expert not them..get it now?
    you are the expert programmer.. but I doubt you get to choose the computers and projects you work on..

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    you are the expert programmer.. but I doubt you get to choose the computers and projects you work on..
    ..and your program plan and the deliverables you are required to deliver and when.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    you are the expert programmer.. but I doubt you get to choose the computers and projects you work on..
    Actually a senior level SQL Database Administrator \ .NET programmer.
    Choose the computers .... I was giving a computer as my main workstation when hired..But can log into many servers and pc's as I see fit to work on.
    Choose projects...I get to choose what to work on most times daily....My job is to keep Servers up and running what ever it takes...So it's the coaches job to win games whatever it takes within there power.

    I was a leader in Management for over 15 years before computer field.. I know how to lead..Tomlin can do much better from what I see.....
    And like the other poster I see no passion like I have before..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sword View Post
    Your missing the point...
    I'm a good programmer and I'm not going to have the owner of the company tell me how to program..thats absurd..
    I'm the expert not them..get it now?
    With that attitude, you probably find yourself on the street pretty quickly. Whether you are right or not, the guy who signs the checks usually thinks he knows better, especially if he isn't asking for your input first.

    Good news is you probably find another job pretty fast with another company who appreciates your expertise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    Exactly. Tomlin is the head coach, but he doesn't own the team. Like any corporate organization the guy at the top calls the shots and you execute within the guidelines provided. To say "forget what the Rooney's/Management want" is plain ridiculous.

    The problem we have right now with the OL (#1 source of our offensive issues) is much more on Colbert than Tomlin. Colbert went into this season with a wish and hope on the Offensive Line and ignored it in the draft. He controls the talent acqusition not Tomlin.

    If you are in NASCAR and the racing team owners give you cars with a six banger in them you aren't going to win any races no matter how much you tweak the engine or how good your driver is (Big Ben).

    As far as firing the coordinators, do you really think that accomplishes anything mid-season? Plus does anyone really think Tomlin ever had the ability to move on past LeBeau no matter how much he wanted to?
    Give it a rest with LeBeau already. The problem this season is not defense.

    And as for what firing the OC would do midseason? Seemed to work well for a division rival.

    Finally, I'm still waiting to hear your proposed changes for the OL. Which draft pick did you want to get rid of this year? What concrete solutions did you have? You always complain that the Steelers don't play young guys on defense, that they have to wait. Well, on offense, guess what - they are playing.

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