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    The obvious lack of sacks and turnovers is absolute torment to watch anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    LeBeau hasn't lost it whatsoever. The last few years he's been without guys like Aaron Smith and James Farrior, plus guys like Troy Polamalu, James Harrison, and LaMarr Woodley have been gimpier versions of their true selves. Even without guys like this, he's been able to field defenses that have kept us competitive (much moreso than the offense). With the horses at his disposal, his defenses have been legendary, and have been the foundation of multiple championship teams.
    You're wasting keystrokes on the Lebeau is old, the game has passed him by, he's not innovative any longer group. The defense needs to score points or put the offense on the opponents 20 yard line every time, 3 and outs aren't good enough, you have to score for the offense and then the defense is good, otherwise they suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    LeBeau hasn't lost it whatsoever. The last few years he's been without guys like Aaron Smith and James Farrior, plus guys like Troy Polamalu, James Harrison, and LaMarr Woodley have been gimpier versions of their true selves. Even without guys like this, he's been able to field defenses that have kept us competitive (much moreso than the offense). With the horses at his disposal, his defenses have been legendary, and have been the foundation of multiple championship teams.
    I am thinking any DC in the league would look like a genius with those guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    LeBeau hasn't lost it whatsoever. The last few years he's been without guys like Aaron Smith and James Farrior, plus guys like Troy Polamalu, James Harrison, and LaMarr Woodley have been gimpier versions of their true selves. Even without guys like this, he's been able to field defenses that have kept us competitive (much moreso than the offense). With the horses at his disposal, his defenses have been legendary, and have been the foundation of multiple championship teams.
    Well said.

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    this defense just lacks overall playmakers.....it's not the "scheme" ...if Clay Mathews, Patrick Willis, Richard Sherman & Aldon Smith were in this "scheme" I highly doubt we'd be talking about "schemes"
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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    LeBeau hasn't lost it whatsoever. The last few years he's been without guys like Aaron Smith and James Farrior, plus guys like Troy Polamalu, James Harrison, and LaMarr Woodley have been gimpier versions of their true selves. Even without guys like this, he's been able to field defenses that have kept us competitive (much moreso than the offense). With the horses at his disposal, his defenses have been legendary, and have been the foundation of multiple championship teams.
    Ruthless--the point you make is exactly the problem with LeBeau. He DOESN'T have those players but he still wants to put the same template defense out there versus adjusting to the players he DOES have and putting them in position to maximize their abilities. He is too in love with his creation and wants to put whatever sqare pegs he has into the round holes he has created.

    Waiting for a few years wishing and hoping you get the combination of just the right players that LeBeau wants is a recipe for disaster. You play and win with who you have on the roster not who you would like to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SidSmythe View Post
    this defense just lacks overall playmakers.....it's not the "scheme" ...if Clay Mathews, Patrick Willis, Richard Sherman & Aldon Smith were in this "scheme" I highly doubt we'd be talking about "schemes"
    You have to play with who you have not who you want to have. Good coaches make adjustments to put players in position to be successful.
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    One thing that was evident which means the Steelers made the right decision about James Harrison, he isn't a 4-3 linebacker and he's got very little left in the tank. I wouldn't be surprised to see him retire before the end of the season.

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    1.15) Ryan Shazier - ILB/OLB
    2.46) Stephon Tuitt - DE
    3.97) Dri Archer - RB
    4.118 ) Martavis Bryant - WR
    5.157) Shaquille Richardson - CB
    6.173) Wesley Johnson - OT
    6.192) Jordan Zumwalt - ILB
    7.215) Daniel McCullers - DT
    7.230) Rob Blanchflower - TE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    You have to play with who you have not who you want to have. Good coaches make adjustments to put players in position to be successful.
    What shoud Lebeau have done differently last night? Cam Heyward has progressed, and Lebeau put him in a situation to rush the passer. He didn't get a sack, but he got pressure. They used some creative stunts with a four man rush. AJ Green was, once again, a non-factor.

    Jones was inches from a sack fumble. A few of those batted balls bounce differently, and the Steelers end up with a pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyesq View Post
    What shoud Lebeau have done differently last night? Cam Heyward has progressed, and Lebeau put him in a situation to rush the passer. He didn't get a sack, but he got pressure. They used some creative stunts with a four man rush. AJ Green was, once again, a non-factor.

    Jones was inches from a sack fumble. A few of those batted balls bounce differently, and the Steelers end up with a pick.
    Well, the defense didn't do what the offense is supposed to do, score points, so, they were bad as well last night. It matters none that they were on the field for about 30 more plays than the Cincinnati defense (which is about 1/2 of a game, in other words they played a game and half last night), while the offense played barely 2/3 of a game. You can't win in the NFL with your defense on the field that long. Some of it was their own doing, they gave up a couple long drives, but that happens. Too many three and outs from the offense.

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    1.15) Ryan Shazier - ILB/OLB
    2.46) Stephon Tuitt - DE
    3.97) Dri Archer - RB
    4.118 ) Martavis Bryant - WR
    5.157) Shaquille Richardson - CB
    6.173) Wesley Johnson - OT
    6.192) Jordan Zumwalt - ILB
    7.215) Daniel McCullers - DT
    7.230) Rob Blanchflower - TE

    "Before you can win a game, you have to not lose it." -- Chuck Noll

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