What are you arguing with me about? I have stated TODAY we drafted poorly which is the crux of our problems. Ray Rice was drafted in the EXACT SAME DRAFT as Mendenhall. How in the heck can one use "late draft picks" as an excuse for our putrid run game.
My debate with Crash is that Arians sure cant make this thing work either with his deep drops etc.
In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:
TCFCLTC-
The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher
The 2008 Steelers line was considered the worst OL to ever win a Super Bowl.
I'd say it worked plenty.
Lets not talk 2008 how bout consecutive seasons.
This is the most fair caparison because you have the closest to the same team.
In 2008 for instance you had Hines Ward and Stonio Holmes.
- 2011 we scored 325 points- Under Arians in a system Ben knew inside and out
- 2012 we scored 336 points- Under Haley, instituting a BRAND NEW SYSTEM with Ben hurt three games and returning as a shell of himself to close the season.
You wanna talk record? Here is the difference:
- 2011 we allowed 227 points (14.2/g), 1st IN THE NFL Crash
- 2012 we allowed 314 points points (19.6/g)
- While Haleys O scored 1 point MORE per game the D ALLOWED 5 MORE POINTS PER GAME thus the record
Crash add 5 points per game to our team in 2011, see what our record is.
Last edited by Captain Lemming; 09-09-2013 at 08:34 PM.
In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:
TCFCLTC-
The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher
We had a defense under DL that you hate allowing less than 14 points point a game, among the stingiest defenses of the modern era. Yes, Arians and his 21 ranked scoring offense carried us the a championship that year.
Given even a "really good", not great defense Arians does not SNIFF a trophy with that oline.
A healthy DL led defense can win a SB with a QB with a rating of 22 too lest we forget, how GREAT Lebeau is.
Last edited by Captain Lemming; 09-09-2013 at 08:50 PM.
In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:
TCFCLTC-
The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher
Where did the Steelers DEFENSE rank in turnovers forced?2011 we scored 325 points- Under Arians in a system Ben knew inside and out
Where did the Steelers DEFENSE rank in turnovers forced?2012 we scored 336 points- Under Haley, instituting a BRAND NEW SYSTEM with Ben hurt three games and returning as a shell of himself to close the season.
Where did the Steelers OFFENSE rank, in time of possession?2011 we allowed 227 points (14.2/g), 1st IN THE NFL Crash
You don't get it, either because you simply don't watch the games or are too stupid to comprehend it.
When the STEELERS OFFENSE is holding the ball? The STEELERS DEFENSE is not on the field. Thus, they can't give up yards, or points.
But they can sure look "good" while standing on the sidelines.
ANOTHER GENIUS BELOW....lol
READ THIS, and weep.Steelers were No. 1 in the league in fewest 4th qtr points allowed in 2007 and 2011.
[url]http://m.nbcsports.com/content/kacsmar-dont-believe-hype-steelers-d[/url]
You people need to stop judging this team like fantasy owners reading a fantasy football magazine, and start paying attention to what you SEE when you WATCH this team.
Last edited by RussianCrash; 09-10-2013 at 12:05 PM.
I watched Ben look like crap. The offense look incompetent as well as the HC. The defense played ok... but not great by any means. On a scale of 1 to 10, I'd give the defense a 6. On the same scale, I give the entire offense and the coaching staff a -10000000000000000000.
Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.
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