Madden: Steelers Wasting BIg Ben

[hawaiiansteel]

establishing a rushing game is not a waste of Ben's talent any more than it was a waste of John Elway's talent to have Terrell Davis providing a running threat.

[Captain QB]

establishing a rushing game is not a waste of Ben's talent any more than it was a waste of John Elway's talent to have Terrell Davis providing a running threat.

Establishing a running game doesn't waste a QB's talent, but handcuffing him until the 4th quarter when you need him to bail the team out does waste his talents.

[Captain Lemming]

The Denver game showed me that holding onto the ball doesn't matter unless you are putting up points. Nothing worse than watching us hold the ball for 14 minutes and run 40 plays to score 7 points... and then watch the Broncos run 3 plays in 20 seconds and score 7 points.

If other teams can routinely score three play touchdowns you will lose regardless of how you play offense. That is a defense problem.

[Captain Lemming]

Establishing a running game doesn't waste a QB's talent, but handcuffing him until the 4th quarter when you need him to bail the team out does waste his talents.

Funny how THIS EXACT strategy got Flacco a ring AND entry into the Big BUCKS CLUB of QBs. Yeah, THAT Superbowl run was a "waste of the QBs talents".
But throwing 40 times to pad Ben's fantasy football numbers is more important that winning rings right?

[Captain QB]

That strategy got Flacco a ring AND entry into the Big BUCKS CLUB of QBs.
But throwing 40 times to pad Ben's fantasy football numbers is more important that winning rings right?

And handcuffing the QB until the 4th quarter is considered a winning formula?
Hey, trying to relive the 70's is more important than winning rings, right?

[Captain Lemming]

And handcuffing the QB until the 4th quarter is considered a winning formula?
Hey, trying to relive the 70's is more important than winning rings, right?

No need to go back to the 70s.....
I am just trying to "relive" the kind of balance that history has shown ALWAYS results in winning seasons for Ben.

[feltdizz]

If other teams can routinely score three play touchdowns you will lose regardless of how you play offense. That is a defense problem.

3 play TD drives arent routine...

I would just like to see some points to go along with this time of possession trophy.

[Captain Lemming]

I agree with the article, and judging from the first preseason game where most of the passes was 10 yds or less. It still looks dink and donk to me. And I don't buy the bad Ol bs. Aaron Rodgers get sacked just as much if not more and I think him and Ben are more alike than Ben and Brady, where they are better fit for the long ball offense.

Yes, in a meaningless preseason game with OTs who are struggling to protect Ben as it is, lets call slower developing plays that make Ben hold the ball EVEN LONGER. We need to make sure he can take the punishment before the season starts.

[NJ-STEELER]

Arians had the O moving but they always stalled out in the red zone. I used to curse when they got a 1st and goal at the 5 b/c you just knew it would be a nightmare trying to score a TD. When they got to the 50 I'd start praying for a long ball that would get into the endzone. His last 3 years his RZ TD pct was 48.2%, 48%, 51%. Terrible. F. Hopefully they've got a plan to get that better this year.

a bad OL combined with a RB who like to spin instead of hitting a jole will do that.

combine that with 'midget' type receivers who dont really have a physical mismatch against their DB counterparts and its no wonder why it struggled

[Captain Lemming]

3 play TD drives arent routine...

I would just like to see some points to go along with this time of possession trophy.

Your original scenario WAS that we scored a TD, followed by a quick TD by the opponent. We DID score. THAT was the basis of my reply.

Your comment here I can agree with completely. We need to end drive with scores.

This team scored more points:
1. Ben's first two years under BC.
Ben went 13-0 in year one with Ben throwing more than 25 times ONCE. THAT team SCORED more than we have seen lately.
Crash's problem is that he equates letting Ben loose with scoring.
We have done that and SCORED LESS. AND hurt our defense for not controling the ball.

Highest scoring seasons with Ben.

2007- First year under BA offense, ONLY TIME he called run more than pass.
2005- Ben's second season- Lowest pass attempts as a game one starter.