We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!
HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!
I'm in agreement with you there. Ephesians 2:8-9 says it's by grace we're saved, through faith, and not of ourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. However, that truth in no way gives license to excuse or justify or condone or practice sin. Romans 6:1 says, "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who dies to sin live any longer in it?" Salvation in Christ is salvation from sin, and results in change. The genuinely saved one is a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17), with a whole new relationship to sin (read Romans 6 and the book of 1 John). 1 Cor. 6:9-11 says, "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such WERE some of you, but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justfied in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." This doesn't mean the Christian doesn't ever slip up and commit sin (see 1 John 1:8-10). But my identity has been changed, I have a new nature, and I have a new direction in my life. I have not attained perfection, but I sure have changed direction.Originally Posted by flippyYou have to interpret the part in light of the whole. Each verse or portion must be taken in view of its immediate context, as well as the context of the whole Bible. That said, there is a remarkable consistency and unity to the message. As you study through it honestly, you figure out, for example, that we are no longer required to do animal sacrifices (because Christ was the once-and-for-all sacrifice for us, Hebrews 10:4, 10-14, 1. We no longer are under the ceremonial requirements of the Law (food, drink, festivals, new moons and Sabbaths, Colossians 2:16-17) which were a "shadow" but the "substance" is Christ. But there are other commands that we are to follow (1 John 5:3). This is not working to earn my salvation; this is loving the God who saved me.Originally Posted by flippyFirst, I've studied many of the so-called "contradictions" and found that they really are not. I'd be happy to try to take on specific cases. As far as order in the Bible, Genesis was put first because it is the book of beginnings (that's what Genesis means). Though it may have been penned after Job, Genesis goes back to give history from before the time of Job...in fact, it goes clear back to creation. That's because we need an understanding of how everything began in order to understand what happened later. Yes, there are some things that are hard to understand, and yes, it helps to learn about the history and culture of the times in which the books of the Bible were written. But for the most part, I don't think it's as difficult to understand the Bible as we often make it. If God wanted to have a relationship with us, then wouldn't He write a Book that was accessible? There is plenty that we can understand...with a little work, and the illumination of His Spirit, we can grow in our understanding of the Scriptures.Originally Posted by flippyThe people who thought the earth was flat did not get it from the Bible...it teaches that the earth is round. Isaiah 40:22 says that God "sits above the circle of the earth." See also Job 26:10. Job notes that the earth is hung in empty space (Job 26:7), and that it turns on its axis (Job 38:12). Prior to Galileo, scientists thought there were only around 1000 stars, but the Bible says they are innumerable (Jeremiah 33:22). Since He is the God who declares "the end from the beginning, and from ancient times things that are not yet done" (Isaiah 46:10), He was able to write a Book that still applies to our lives today.Originally Posted by flippy
Jesus died to save us from our sins. We are not saved through our works. Sin is missing God's mark, coming short of His glory (Romans 3:23), and it is the problem. It's what we need to be saved from. But in His word, God defines what sin is. He is very clear, and as you read through the New Testament, you can't miss the things that are pointed out as wrongs. The problem of the Pharisees and Sadducees is that they tried, through their traditions and teachings, to modify what God had said. In so doing, they ended up with an impossibly complex, burdensome system of religion (Matthew 23:4). Jesus told them they made the word of God "of no effect through your tradition" (Mark 7:13). In contrast, 1 John 5:3 says, "For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome." Notice, it doesn't say they're not clear...but rather, that they're not burdensome.Originally Posted by flippy
Yes, but how does faith come? Faith comes by hearing the word of God, Romans 10:17. Jesus said, "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God" (Luke 4:4).Originally Posted by flippy
Agreed.Originally Posted by flippy
If we were truly fulfilling Matthew 22:37-40, we wouldn't be sinning. The problem is, our hearts can deceive us. Even though I may feel like I'm not sinning, I can be reading through my Bible (I've had this experience) and suddenly be confronted with a sin that is all too present in my life. In His word, God gets specific about what things are sins; we need that because of our easily-deceived hearts...otherwise, He could have just stopped with Matthew 22:37-40.Originally Posted by flippy
Yes, but again, we have hearts that can be deceived...I have, at times, thought I was "loving God and loving His creation," only to have the Scriptures suddenly show me some sin present in my life that I need to repent of. I have found that I often need to pray, "Search me, O God, and know my heart; try me and know my thoughts, and see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting" (Psalm 139:23-24).Originally Posted by flippy
Flip, His word is clear about certain things that are sins for everyone. And He does care about sin in our lives. He doesn't suggest holiness as an optional lifestyle for us, but rather He says, "as He who has called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, because it is written, 'Be holy, for I am holy'" (1 Peter 1:15-16).Originally Posted by flippy
What you are missing in this description is that God, being a loving Father, wants His saved child to be the best he/she can be. Yes, God accepts that one in Christ, but He wants to see that one changed; He wants to conform that one to the image of His Son (Romans 8:29). That means I cannot go on with sin the way I used to before I was saved. God won't allow it. He is at work, sanctifying me. But as one who is in Christ, I take comfort in His promise that I can never be separated from His love (Romans 8:31-39).Originally Posted by flippy
God is in control. I've accepted that He is God and I'm not. And I'm mighty thankful for that! But I'm told in Romans 8:13 that, by the Holy Spirit, I am to be putting to death the sinful deeds of my body. According to that passage, that IS following God's leading! So anything He has defined as sin, what must I do with it? Tolerate it in my life? Don't worry about it? Deny it? Say that that's just the way I am? No. I must choose to put it off (Ephesians 4:17-24), be renewed in the spirit of my mind, and put on the new man, created according to God in true righteousness and holiness. I have a long way to go to be like Jesus, but thanks to Him, I’m on the upward trail.Originally Posted by flippy
Hey, thanks for reading, flippy…great discussion! But I think, if we want to continue it, we ought to take it to the general discussion forum, since we're getting away from Steelers football.
I always thought that was referring to the idiots in the Raiders end zone stands, or maybe the ones in the Cleveland Dog Pound. In the latter case the penalty for their error would be to have a son that turned out to grow up into that guy D*ck Head from that photo that shows up here now and then (it's a few years old now, the guy actually grew up to become mayor of Cleveland).
We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!
HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!
Ruthless started it all when he did his own Glee rendition of the Gambler mashed up with his own little diddy.
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Diddy's gonna lay down his own remix of Lady with Big Kenny Roasters. Glee style mashup. Keeping in form with the thread, we gonna mix All About the Benjamins (Wally remix) with Kenny's Lady (as a shout of to you cross dressing homos)
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Uhh, uh-huh, yeah
Uhh, uh-huh, yeah
It's all about the Benjamins baby
Uhh, uh-huh, yeah
It's all about the Benjamins baby
Lady, I'm your knight in shining armor and I love you
You have made me what I am and I am yours
My love, there's so many ways I want to say I love you
Let me hold you in my arms forever more
Now... what y'all wanna do?
Wanna be ballers? Shot-callers?
Brawlers -- who be dippin in the Benz wit the spoilers
On the low from the Jake in the Taurus
You have gone and made me such a fool
I'm so lost in your love
And oh, we belong together
Won't you believe in my song?
I want a all chromed out wit the clutch, nigga
Drinkin malt liquor, drivin a Bro' Vega
I'm wit Mo' sippers, watched by gold diggers (uhh)
Rockin Bejor denims, wit gold zippers (c'mon)
Lady, for so many years I thought I'd never find you
You have come into my life and made me whole
Forever let me wake to see you each and every morning
Let me hear you whisper softly in my ear
Uhh, uh-huh, yeah
Uhh, uh-huh, yeah
It's all about the Benjamins baby
Uhh, uh-huh, yeah
It's all about the Benjamins baby
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