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    If Jarvis Jones isnt there at 17 and Star Lotulelei is.....

    ...can the Steelers make a trade that involves Ziggy Hood? Does Star Lotulelei and an additional mid-round pick become an attractive option for the Steelers?


    Steelers 2014 Draft

    1--Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma State
    2--Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
    3-- -- Traded --
    3B--C.J. Fiedorwicz TE Iowa
    4--Jordan Tripp ILB Montana
    5--Brent Urban DE Virginia
    6--Michael Schofield OT Michigan
    7--Kadeem Edwards OG Tennessee State









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    I smile everytime I read the hate that Ziggy Hood gets because it reminds me of what we all read about Keenan Lewis just one year ago and how just three months ago everyone was lamenting the fact we were going to lose such a good young CB.

    The problem has never been hood, but the way he is utilized in this defense. Don't you think it is more than a coincidence that Heyward is now getting very similar criticism? It's not the players my friends. You can make a case that maybe we shouldn't have drafted DEs in Round 1 given how we, IMO, misuse our DL, but both of these guys were highly thought of coming out and got picked late in Round 1 right where they were expected.
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    2014 Draft

    1. Eric Ebron, TE
    2. Calvin Pryor, S
    3 (Comp). Jaylen Watkins, CB
    4. Justin Ellis, DT/NT
    5a. Brandon Coleman, WR
    5b. Brent Urban, DE
    6. Prince Shembo, OLB
    7a. Aaron Colvin, CB
    7b. Storm Johnson, RB

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    would i take star and let the 3 guys fight for 2 spots? yup... if he's BPA, so be it.
    Mock 3.0
    1. Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State
    2. Jordan Matthews, WR, Vandy
    3. Ed Stinson, DE, Alabama
    4. Lache Seastrunk, RB, Baylor
    5. Zachariah Kerr, NT, Delaware
    5a. Shaquille Richardson, CB, Arizona
    6. Marcel Jensen, TE, Fresno State
    6a Greg Blair, ILB, Cincinnati
    7. Kaleb Ramsey, DE, Boston College

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    I smile everytime I read the hate that Ziggy Hood gets because it reminds me of what we all read about Keenan Lewis just one year ago and how just three months ago everyone was lamenting the fact we were going to lose such a good young CB.

    The problem has never been hood, but the way he is utilized in this defense. Don't you think it is more than a coincidence that Heyward is now getting very similar criticism? It's not the players my friends. You can make a case that maybe we shouldn't have drafted DEs in Round 1 given how we, IMO, misuse our DL, but both of these guys were highly thought of coming out and got picked late in Round 1 right where they were expected.
    Ziggy Hood has been a disappointment by any measure you use, statistical or otherwise. In the same system, many DEs have put up seasons with 6-8 sacks, from Ray Seals to KVO to Aaron Smith. Hood gets absolutely no push as a pass rusher, and teams often opened games by successfully running straight at Ziggy.

    He's been perhaps marginally better than Nick Eason. I don't fault his effort - he obviously trains hard. He just is not a particularly talented player.

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    Do you even need DEs with Star as your NT?
    2014 NFL Draft
    1) ​Darqueze Dennard-DB MSU
    2) Jordan Matthews-WR Vandy
    3) Chris Borland-ILB Wisconsin
    4) Caraun Reid, DT Princeton
    5) De'Anthony Thomas-RB Oregon
    5b) Ryan Carrethers-NT Arkansas State
    6) Jeff Janis-WR Saginow Valley State
    6b) Seantrel Henderson, OT MIami
    7) Colt Lyerla -TE Oregon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn View Post
    Do you even need DEs with Star as your NT?
    I think Star is better suited for DE in 3-4 like Hiloti Ngata. Yes he can play NT but I believe you could get more out of him as 5-technique. And I believe Ziggy Hood is better suited as a 4-3 DE.


    Steelers 2014 Draft

    1--Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma State
    2--Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
    3-- -- Traded --
    3B--C.J. Fiedorwicz TE Iowa
    4--Jordan Tripp ILB Montana
    5--Brent Urban DE Virginia
    6--Michael Schofield OT Michigan
    7--Kadeem Edwards OG Tennessee State









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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn View Post
    Do you even need DEs with Star as your NT?
    Start of a "the Legend of" thread?

    Star is not a defensive lineman.....he IS the defensive line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    Start of a "the Legend of" thread?

    Star is not a defensive lineman.....he IS the defensive line.
    They call his "star" because like a stars effect on planets....you CANNOT ESCAPE HIM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    They call his "star" because like a stars effect on planets....you CANNOT ESCAPE HIM.
    He is so great regardless of who you already have, your defense WILL "revolve" around "Star"

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    In this case you pick Star and thank the 16 ahead of you!

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