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    This team needs young talent .. that's what it needs.

    Even though Colbert doesn't want to admit it, he drafts for needs. He also drafts BPA. To his own admission, his drafts have historically been "BPA at a position of need". If you draft purely on "need" then you'll reach. He doesn't do that. He pinpoints his "need" positions and drafts the BPA based on the identified positions. For example, RB might be more of a need than OLB or WR for example, but if BPA is OLB then Colbert will go that route.

    By "position of need", he doesn't mean necessarily this years immediate need. It could be next year's "need". Safety, Cornerback, ILB/OLB, RB, WR all meet that fundamental requirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    We can make do with the roster we have. Give us some health and we're back to being a SuperBowl contender with the guys we have.

    And what if guys like Woodley and Dwyer come into camp in shape this year? All of our problems could be fixed.

    So it seems as fans we're fixated on guys that can come in and contribute right away. I'm hoping the Steelers get some guys that have long term potential and can develop into super stars of tomorrow.

    Very few rookies have monster break out seasons their first year. They just take time to develop. And sometimes the guy that looks most ready to contribute today has the least upside because he's already peaked.

    So would you prefer the Steelers play it safe or take some big time chances on guys that could be boom or bust?

    Maybe that's the one thing we should change this year...go for broke.
    I think when you go for boom or bust guys, you end up with a lot of busts and a lot of one-contract guys... say you take the best "long-term player" every single time and if it's close between two of them, but, one fits your needs, then, sure, you're allowed to skip down a few on your list...

    If you rated every scouted player from 1-1000, there should be some pre-determined number (say 10) that you're allowed to skip down to make a selection. In other words, if I'm staring at the 24th best player on the board, but, he's a a position i have and it's solid, I DO NOT select the 50th best player on the board because "he fills a need".

    btw, i still visualize "happy" ronald mcdonald every time i read one of your posts.. that's a good thing... it's hard to get angry with that dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    Spence would be nice but I fear he will never come back to the level he was at. Just too much damage for a guy who was more about speed and explosion than power and strength.
    I agree. By all accounts I'll be shocked if he ever plays a down in the NFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelz09 View Post
    By "position of need", he doesn't mean necessarily this years immediate need. It could be next year's "need".
    Agree with this. It's like playing chess. The guy who is thinking 2 or 3 moves ahead tends to beat the guy who is only focused on what's right in front of him at the present time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelz09 View Post
    This team needs young talent .. that's what it needs.

    Even though Colbert doesn't want to admit it, he drafts for needs. He also drafts BPA. To his own admission, his drafts have historically been "BPA at a position of need". If you draft purely on "need" then you'll reach. He doesn't do that. He pinpoints his "need" positions and drafts the BPA based on the identified positions. For example, RB might be more of a need than OLB or WR for example, but if BPA is OLB then Colbert will go that route.

    By "position of need", he doesn't mean necessarily this years immediate need. It could be next year's "need". Safety, Cornerback, ILB/OLB, RB, WR all meet that fundamental requirement.
    My point exactly.
    Example: Eifert

    People keep citing the loss of Miller for part of the season as a reason.
    I do not think Colbert thinks that way at all.

    Not tight end might be in that category of "near future" needs. Fine. We might take him.

    But he will be in a pool of players from several positions we consider.
    Without regards to Heaths injury, the losses at RB, or the loss of JH or Wallace, this team will look at ALL the players at those and a few other positions and pick the best guy.

    If it IS Eifort, it will be because he is the best available at one of a number of need positions.

    On the other hand our first round pick will NOT be a QB or Center for example because there is an element of need (current or future) that figures into the formula.
    Last edited by Captain Lemming; 04-25-2013 at 04:23 PM.

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