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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    But he just led or was tied for the lead in tackles, sacks and INTs.

    Timmons is obviously a bust!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    Harrison will not be as successful in the Bumgal 4-3 defense as he was in a 3-4. Letting go an injury prone 35 year old is never a bad decision.
    I'm more interested in seeing what happens the first time Harrison comes up with a questionable hit. You know, the kind of hit that would get Ed Reed a suspension that is immediately rescinded for no reason. The kind of hit that nobody else gets flagged for because they don't have the reputation, but there is no way to get that rep if the league constantly ignores the hits from other players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    Sacking the QB is difference making plays. Rarely is an opponents running game a decisive factor in the "pass first and pass often" NFL of 2013. I'll trade off some run defense for getting more sacks every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
    The death of the running game is greatly overstated. Teams still run well in excess of 40% of the time. There has been a shift of only a few percent since the mid90s.

    If you need to bring your safeties up to stop the run, you will be more exposed to the pass. Harrison's strong run defense impacted more than just one phase of the game. This isn't fantasy football where you can just look at sack numbers and ignore everything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyesq View Post
    The death of the running game is greatly overstated. Teams still run well in excess of 40% of the time. There has been a shift of only a few percent since the mid90s.

    If you need to bring your safeties up to stop the run, you will be more exposed to the pass. Harrison's strong run defense impacted more than just one phase of the game. This isn't fantasy football where you can just look at sack numbers and ignore everything else.
    If I had a choice I would be dominant in 60% of the game and adequete in 40% versus the reverse.

    If the running game was so importnt why are RBs now just commodity players and are rarely sought after in Round 1? Its because the people who get paid to do this know that is a lesser part of the offense where OK is good enough. You can't be OK in the passing game and expect to win a championship.
    Playing Fantasy Football does not qualify you to be the in the front office or on the coaching staff of the Pittsburgh Steelers. They are professionals and you are not!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    If I had a choice I would be dominant in 60% of the game and adequete in 40% versus the reverse.

    If the running game was so importnt why are RBs now just commodity players and are rarely sought after in Round 1? Its because the people who get paid to do this know that is a lesser part of the offense where OK is good enough. You can't be OK in the passing game and expect to win a championship.
    It's not a 40-60 split. It is closer to 45-55. And if you cannot stop the run, it's incredibly easy for a team to beat you with short passes. It's a lot easier to defend third and long than third and short. Third and long sets up opportunities for your pass rushers. In the days of "Blitzburgh" it was often third and long where you would see sacks and turnovers.

    Running backs are treated as commodities because the position has a short life expectancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    If I had a choice I would be dominant in 60% of the game and adequete in 40% versus the reverse.

    If the running game was so importnt why are RBs now just commodity players and are rarely sought after in Round 1? Its because the people who get paid to do this know that is a lesser part of the offense where OK is good enough. You can't be OK in the passing game and expect to win a championship.
    When another Adrian Peterson type comes along you will see a RB go high in the first round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    When another Adrian Peterson type comes along you will see a RB go high in the first round.
    AP is special beyond any other player in the NFL today. Just my humble opinion. Great on and off the field. Can't imagine he would not be anyone's first pick off the draft board. Hope he has a long shelf life at his prime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    When another Adrian Peterson type comes along you will see a RB go high in the first round.
    AP is special beyond any other player in the NFL today. Just my humble opinion. Great on and off the field. Can't imagine he would not be anyone's first pick off the draft board. Hope he has a long shelf life at his prime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DukieBoy View Post
    AP is special beyond any other player in the NFL today. Just my humble opinion. Great on and off the field. Can't imagine he would not be anyone's first pick off the draft board. Hope he has a long shelf life at his prime.

    Speaking of being first off the draft board, how did that Jamarcus pick work out for the Raiders?

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    James Harrison top edge rusher over last five years

    By Neal Coolong on Jun 28 2013



    Pro Football Focus ranks the former Steelers OLB James Harrison as the top edge rusher since 2008.

    The Steelers asked James Harrison to take a pay cut in 2013.

    Harrison declined. The Steelers released Harrison, and with him, went a player Pro Football Focus believes was the best all-around edge rusher in the league over the last five years.

    That seems right. Maybe I'm biased, but we didn't see a player as all-around dominant from that position as Harrison.

    PFF writes:

    What pushed Harrison to the top was his ability to do it all. The Steelers' scheme asked a lot out of him, and more than you'd tend to require from a guy chiefly known as an edge rusher. Yet, not only did he impress dropping into coverage, but he was extremely productive rushing the passer, and a true force in the run game lining up chiefly as the right outside linebacker for the Steelers in each of his five years.

    Harrison had outstanding pass rushing seasons, and was always effective against the run. He did well in coverage, if for no reason than his sheer intimidation.

    We can celebrate Harrison's past with the team, as he will fairly be considered one of the best linebackers in the history of a franchise loaded with outstanding linebackers. Harrison isn't likely to get in the Hall of Fame due more to a shorter career than many of his contemporaries, but that remains to be seen.

    In the meantime, we have to deal with seeing him wear a Bengals uniform for at least a season. This is neither fun nor pleasant, but this at least gives us a reason to remember when Harrison was on the right side; our side.

    http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com...rs-edge-rusher

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