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    Quote Originally Posted by squidkid View Post
    just think of the cap savings with teo also

    we could probably dupe this dolt into signing a contract where he pays the steelers every year
    Hey Manti, take my word for it, the contract is 100 mil over 5 years......you dont need no stinkin agent, you dont even have to read it, it is so long and boring, just sign on the dotted line here......

    You seem like a lonely kid.....you can date my girlfriend......Morgan Fairchild......(I know she's old enough to be his mom but work with me here)

    Yeah Manti, ....thats the ticket


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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerOfDeVille View Post
    Based on what? Just curious... in your opinion, what makes the kid a reach? wait... a HUGE reach?
    Skills apart why would anyone want to invest 2 Top-20 draft picks at ILB position??? Its not a premium position but Steelers will be investing two mid-first Rd picks on that position...It does not make sense to me...

    I am looking for a game-changer at 17.
    Steelers Draft
    Rd 1: Mike Evans - WR
    Rd 2: Kyle Van Noy - ILB/OLB
    Rd 3c: Philip Gaines - CB
    Rd 4: Taylor Hart - DE
    Rd 5: Justin Ellis - DT
    Rd 5c:Xavier Grimble -TE

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerOfDeVille View Post
    Based on what? Just curious... in your opinion, what makes the kid a reach? wait... a HUGE reach?
    what doesn't make him one?

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    If I'm using pick 17 on an ILB, that kid better be as explosive as a Timmons or Kendrell Bell or have the range and athleticism of a Jack Ham.

    Teo might not even be as talented as Larry Foote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grotonsteel View Post
    Skills apart why would anyone want to invest 2 Top-20 draft picks at ILB position??? Its not a premium position but Steelers will be investing two mid-first Rd picks on that position...It does not make sense to me...

    I am looking for a game-changer at 17.
    They play 4 LBs and START 2 ILBs that require different skillsets... just as you might invest multiple first rounders on o-linemen or WRs if there is a need, you invest in the LBs if you need one. "because we invested in one already" is irrelevant, if you need one.

    somebody give me a reason other than just "cuz"....
    Mock 3.0
    1. Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State
    2. Jordan Matthews, WR, Vandy
    3. Ed Stinson, DE, Alabama
    4. Lache Seastrunk, RB, Baylor
    5. Zachariah Kerr, NT, Delaware
    5a. Shaquille Richardson, CB, Arizona
    6. Marcel Jensen, TE, Fresno State
    6a Greg Blair, ILB, Cincinnati
    7. Kaleb Ramsey, DE, Boston College

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    If I'm using pick 17 on an ILB, that kid better be as explosive as a Timmons or Kendrell Bell or have the range and athleticism of a Jack Ham.

    Teo might not even be as talented as Larry Foote.
    Foote? Really? C'mon flippy, don't let the Ala game influence your thinking... before that game, he was considered a top 10 pick... IMO, we simply need a run stuffer. No, he's not a Mike Singletary, but, he does have good instincts and plays the run well...
    Mock 3.0
    1. Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State
    2. Jordan Matthews, WR, Vandy
    3. Ed Stinson, DE, Alabama
    4. Lache Seastrunk, RB, Baylor
    5. Zachariah Kerr, NT, Delaware
    5a. Shaquille Richardson, CB, Arizona
    6. Marcel Jensen, TE, Fresno State
    6a Greg Blair, ILB, Cincinnati
    7. Kaleb Ramsey, DE, Boston College

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    If I'm using pick 17 on an ILB, that kid better be as explosive as a Timmons or Kendrell Bell or have the range and athleticism of a Jack Ham.

    Teo might not even be as talented as Larry Foote.
    That's my issue... I think he will be a solid pick in the 3rd but at 17? I think anyone who takes him in the first will be disappointed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerOfDeVille View Post
    Foote? Really? C'mon flippy, don't let the Ala game influence your thinking... before that game, he was considered a top 10 pick... IMO, we simply need a run stuffer. No, he's not a Mike Singletary, but, he does have good instincts and plays the run well...
    Top 10 pick by who? People slurping the ND glory and GF story? Nah.. I think he was a top 10 pick like Tebow and Quinn. Great clips, successful career in college but when you look at him up close and kick the tires vs other ILB he doesn't really stand out like that.

    The whole ND D played the run well this year.. but last year and the year before? I think a lot of people were swayed by his performance this year AND the GF story. Once the story was exposed I think scouts went back and looked at him a second time and determined he was good.. but not GREAT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerOfDeVille View Post
    They play 4 LBs and START 2 ILBs that require different skillsets... just as you might invest multiple first rounders on o-linemen or WRs if there is a need, you invest in the LBs if you need one. "because we invested in one already" is irrelevant, if you need one.

    somebody give me a reason other than just "cuz"....

    You can't have 1st Rd picks in each and every position. Steelers are already paying an ILB 10 million/yr. One does not need a first Rd pick besides him. Timmons should make another mid-round player look good....

    Steelers LB corp already have two 2nd Rd players and one 1st Rd player..Time to strengthen another position.

    Someone wants a thumper get it in mid-round...

    How is Teo special than someone like Bostic??
    Steelers Draft
    Rd 1: Mike Evans - WR
    Rd 2: Kyle Van Noy - ILB/OLB
    Rd 3c: Philip Gaines - CB
    Rd 4: Taylor Hart - DE
    Rd 5: Justin Ellis - DT
    Rd 5c:Xavier Grimble -TE

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerOfDeVille View Post
    Foote? Really? C'mon flippy, don't let the Ala game influence your thinking... before that game, he was considered a top 10 pick... IMO, we simply need a run stuffer. No, he's not a Mike Singletary, but, he does have good instincts and plays the run well...
    You're forgetting how good Foote was in college. Foote was one of the best college LBs the year he came out. I had this conversation with DeeDub when Teo was still considered a top 10 pick. Foote had 26 TFL his senior season. Larry's still one of the smartest LBs in the game. He's not big. He's not fast. But he's always in the right spot. He's got some of the best instincts in the game. I've even said give me the LB version of Larry Foote that either has size or speed and we've got the perfect LB. I think Spence is that guy. He's Larry with speed.

    Re: Teo, I'm not just focused on his last game. I think he's about the same size/speed as Foote. A great college player. But he won't be special in the NFL. I'd take Teo in the 4th just like Foote if he's still available. I think they're basically the same player.

    The only difference, Larry didn't have the media hype because of his personal life. The media made Teo a top 10 pick. His play makes him a mid round pick imho.

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