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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    Some of you are suggesting Breaston is an adequate replacement for Sanders, and would come cheaper. If Sanders=Breaston, then why would NE make the offer to Sanders, for potentially more than they would have to pay Breaston?
    The Pats* likely believe that they can lock up Sanders long term, and long term, Sanders is certainly better than Breaston. Also, the Pats* have trouble developing WRs, so trading a third rounder for a WR who performs like a third rounder is a sound decision for them.

    For the near term, Breaston would represent a step down from Sanders, but how big is the dropoff? If Breaston is healthy (and this is the question mark, for which I would defer to the Steelers medical staff), I don't think the dropoff is too significant. Even if there is a bit of a dropoff, it allows for improvement in other areas, which is significant.

    Also, for the Steelers, the third round pick and the cap space are significant. It could be Bradshaw/Breaston/Third vs. Sanders. I don't believe that the Pats* are as tight against the cap.

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    Bouchette says "Put it this way, if another receiver with Emmanuel Sanders' ability was on another team and he was a restricted free agent with a third-round tender, would the Steelers give up a third-rounder for him? Not on your life. Would they trade a third-rounder for a receiver of Sanders' ability? No."

    I disagree with that. Sanders is still an ascending player in most eyes. He hasn't shown the ability to stay healthy, yes. But he has shown that he can play in this league, something all 3rd round picks this year will still need to prove. Assuming he plays 16 games or close to it, and you could be looking at an 800-1,000 yard player.

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    I'm not reading all 17 pages here, so it may have been mentioned, but I think we all know how this is going to play out. IMO, the Steelers will not match the Patriots offer and use the money on Bradshaw if he's healthy. This team has holes and depth problems all over the place, so sign a RB and load up on draft picks. This is the right move if the Steelers feel they can't sign Sanders long term. Why pay him $2.5 million if he's going to leave as a UFA after this season? I hate renting players and that is exactly what Sanders would be.

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    Roethlisberger puts Tomlin, Steelers on the spot over SandersApr 14th, 2013 at 11:05 am by Michael HammNew England Patriots« PreviousHome » New England Patriots » Roethlisberger puts Tomlin, Steelers on the spot over Sanders Pin ItA little gamesmanship on the part of Mike Tomlin may end up causing the Pittsburgh Steelers some real internal problems.

    The Steelers must decide by midnight on Sunday whether to retain the services of restricted wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders, who was signed to an offer sheet by the New England Patriots this past week. Should they decide to let Sanders walk, the team would then take control of the Patriots 3rd round pick in the NFL draft in less than two weeks.


    Dec 30, 2012; Pittsburgh, PA, USA; Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger (7) scrambles against the Cleveland Browns during the second half of the game at Heinz Field. The Steelers won the game, 24-10. Mandatory Credit: Jason Bridge-USA TODAY Sports
    These situations always seem to have no direction, but this one has taken on a life of it’s own, as the fate of the entire franchise is now involved.

    Steelers head coach Tomlin waited out Patriots’ coach Bill Belichick’s decision on whether to sign the 26 year old Sanders an offer sheet, which left the Steelers free agency and draft status in limbo, so it’s almost certain that Tomlin made up his mind weeks ago as to what he would do if Belichick did sign the speedster to the offer…

    …and now he’s making Belichcik wait until the last possible moment to know what his response will be – but in taking part in the gamesmanship with Belichick, Tomlin left himself open for both scrutiny and divisiveness, as now quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has thrown a wrench into the works.

    According to various reports, Roethlisberger has been “lobbying” the Steelers to match the Patriots’ offer for Sanders, which makes a situation that really wasn’t such a huge deal in the grand scheme of things into a potential internal time bomb for Pittsburgh.

    Now, instead of the question being do the Steelers match the offer and have Sanders start opposite Antonio Brown or take the 91st pick in the draft, it has become a question of how much the Steelers respect the feelings and word of their franchise signal caller.

    In other words, now it’s all about Big Ben.

    Selfishness has always been Roethlisberger’s calling card, but there’s no need to go into his various off-field issues, which are well documented. On the field he is as frustrating to the opposition as he has been to his employers off it…

    …and now he’s just put them in a position to have to not just decide on whether to retain Sanders, but whether to show support to their franchise quarterback by bringing Sanders back for one more season, creating a potential public relations nightmare between the team and their two-time Super Bowl winning quarterback.

    Roethlisberger has forced the Steelers’ hand, and by midnight on Sunday we’ll see just how much they value his opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supersteeler View Post
    Roethlisberger puts Tomlin, Steelers on the spot over SandersApr 14th, 2013 at 11:05 am by Michael HammNew England Patriots« PreviousHome » New England Patriots » Roethlisberger puts Tomlin, Steelers on the spot over Sanders Pin ItA little gamesmanship on the part of Mike Tomlin may end up causing the Pittsburgh Steelers some real internal problems.

    The Steelers must decide by midnight on Sunday whether to retain the services of restricted wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders, who was signed to an offer sheet by the New England Patriots this past week. Should they decide to let Sanders walk, the team would then take control of the Patriots 3rd round pick in the NFL draft in less than two weeks.


    Dec 30, 2012; Pittsburgh, PA, USA; Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger (7) scrambles against the Cleveland Browns during the second half of the game at Heinz Field. The Steelers won the game, 24-10. Mandatory Credit: Jason Bridge-USA TODAY Sports
    These situations always seem to have no direction, but this one has taken on a life of it’s own, as the fate of the entire franchise is now involved.

    Steelers head coach Tomlin waited out Patriots’ coach Bill Belichick’s decision on whether to sign the 26 year old Sanders an offer sheet, which left the Steelers free agency and draft status in limbo, so it’s almost certain that Tomlin made up his mind weeks ago as to what he would do if Belichick did sign the speedster to the offer…

    …and now he’s making Belichcik wait until the last possible moment to know what his response will be – but in taking part in the gamesmanship with Belichick, Tomlin left himself open for both scrutiny and divisiveness, as now quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has thrown a wrench into the works.

    According to various reports, Roethlisberger has been “lobbying” the Steelers to match the Patriots’ offer for Sanders, which makes a situation that really wasn’t such a huge deal in the grand scheme of things into a potential internal time bomb for Pittsburgh.

    Now, instead of the question being do the Steelers match the offer and have Sanders start opposite Antonio Brown or take the 91st pick in the draft, it has become a question of how much the Steelers respect the feelings and word of their franchise signal caller.

    In other words, now it’s all about Big Ben.

    Selfishness has always been Roethlisberger’s calling card, but there’s no need to go into his various off-field issues, which are well documented. On the field he is as frustrating to the opposition as he has been to his employers off it…

    …and now he’s just put them in a position to have to not just decide on whether to retain Sanders, but whether to show support to their franchise quarterback by bringing Sanders back for one more season, creating a potential public relations nightmare between the team and their two-time Super Bowl winning quarterback.

    Roethlisberger has forced the Steelers’ hand, and by midnight on Sunday we’ll see just how much they value his opinion.
    Wow, the media really loves to play this bullcrap up. Newsflash: Roethlisberger ain't the only QB in the league that wants to keep his WRs. Seems there was one T Brady who made the same statements about Welker, and how did that work out for him? Point is, the FO will do what's best for the team. While Ben wants what's best for himself (or the offense).

    Keep in mind Ben also wanted the Steelers to keep Plax way back when, and it didn't seem to bother FO then either. Add to the fact that Plax was 2x the WR that Sanders is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    Wow, the media really loves to play this bullcrap up. Newsflash: Roethlisberger ain't the only QB in the league that wants to keep his WRs. Seems there was one T Brady who made the same statements about Welker, and how did that work out for him? Point is, the FO will do what's best for the team. While Ben wants what's best for himself (or the offense).

    Keep in mind Ben also wanted the Steelers to keep Plax way back when, and it didn't seem to bother FO then either. Add to the fact that Plax was 2x the WR that Sanders is.
    It seems to me that a good teammate and a team leader would lobby for his guys. The worst the FO can do is say no. If they say yes, you have that player in your corner.

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    I dont' see Ben lobbying for Sanders as being selfish at all. He's got a WR we's already built a rapport with and lost one WR already. Seems to make perfect sense to want the guy back in the huddle. Doesn't put the owners or GM in a tough spot at all. Ben made his wishes known, but they still have final say. Ben wanting him back is just another pieces in the puzzle. And why wouldn't you want the opinion of the guy who's your franchise QB. He's the most important player on the team (and we see this whenever he's not playing).

    Sanders signed!

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    I dont' see Ben lobbying for Sanders as being selfish at all.
    The only people who do are those who dislike him. Nothing he does will ever satisfy them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBR96A View Post
    The only people who do are those who dislike him. Nothing he does will ever satisfy them.
    This! If Ben sits by and says nothing, then he isn't leading, when he lobbies for a player he's being selfish, If he says the offense isn't gelling, he's at odds with Haley, wash, rinse repeat for those who dislike Ben and anything he does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papillon View Post
    This! If Ben sits by and says nothing, then he isn't leading, when he lobbies for a player he's being selfish, If he says the offense isn't gelling, he's at odds with Haley, wash, rinse repeat for those who dislike Ben and anything he does.

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    Or you could look at it like the Steelers are like God on their own time table. The first big request from Ben was for Plax and viola, mid way through 2012, he gets him back. Didn't take so long to get Sanders back in the fold.

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