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    RuthlessBurgher's Initial Full First Round Mock Draft

    1. Kansas City (2-14) OT Luke Joeckel
    2. Jacksonville (2-14) DT Sharrif Floyd
    3. Oakland (4-12) DT Star Lotulelei
    4. Philadelphia (4-12) DE Dion Jordan
    5. Detroit (4-12) OT Eric Fisher
    6. Cleveland (5-11) CE Dee Milliner
    7. Arizona (5-11) OT Lane Johnson
    8. Buffalo (6-10) QB Geno Smith
    9. New York Jets (6-10) LB Barkevious Mingo
    10. Tennessee (6-10) OG Chance Warmack
    11. San Diego (7-9) OG Jonathan Cooper
    12. Miami (7-9) CB Xavier Rhodes
    13. Tampa Bay (7-9) CB Desmond Trufant
    14. Carolina (7-9) DT Sheldon Richardson
    15. New Orleans (7-9) DE Ezekiel Ansah
    16. St. Louis (7-8-1) WR Cordarelle Patterson
    17. Pittsburgh (8-8) LB Jarvis Jones
    18. Dallas (8-8) FS Kenny Vaccaro
    19. New York Giants (9-7) DE Bjoern Werner
    20. Chicago (10-6) OT D.J. Fluker
    21. Cincinnati* (10-6) LB Alec Ogletree
    22. St. Louis - from Washington* (10-6) SS Matt Elam
    23. Minnesota* (10-6) WR Tavon Austin
    24. Indianapolis* (11-5) WR Keenan Allen
    25. Minnesota - from Seattle* (11-5) DT Johnathan Hankins
    26. Green Bay* (11-5) TE Tyler Eifert
    27. Houston* (12-4) WR Justin Hunter
    28. Denver* (13-3) DE Damontre Moore
    29. New England* (12-4) CB Johnthan Banks
    30. Atlanta* (13-3) DE Alex Okafor
    31. San Francisco* (11-4-1) DE Datone Jones
    32. Baltimore* (10-6) LB Kevin Minter

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    we can all dream, can't we....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerOfDeVille View Post
    we can all dream, can't we....
    About what? A guy more suited to the ILB in a 3-4? A guy with a serious medical condition? A guy that just ran a 4.85 in the 40?

    A guy more like Bruce Irvin than Von Miller?

    No thank you on Jarvis Jones in the first. I would take him in the 2nd round.
    Here comes the BOOM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRob View Post
    About what? A guy more suited to the ILB in a 3-4? A guy with a serious medical condition? A guy that just ran a 4.85 in the 40?

    A guy more like Bruce Irvin than Von Miller?

    No thank you on Jarvis Jones in the first. I would take him in the 2nd round.
    doesn't matter... he'll be long gone before they pick...
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    I'm on the fence with the Jets passing on Jarvis Jones.
    1. C.J. Mosley LB Alabama
    2. Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
    3. (comp) Philip Gaines CB Rice
    4. Arthur Lynch TE Georgia
    5. Ross Cockrell CB Duke
    5. (comp) Derrick Hopkins DT Virginia Tech
    6. Josh Mauro DE Stanford
    6. (comp) Shaquil Barrett OLB Colorado State
    7. Quincy Enunwa WR Nebraska

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    Quote Originally Posted by thor75 View Post
    I'm on the fence with the Jets passing on Jarvis Jones.

    I actually considered giving the Jets Cordarelle Patterson or Tavon Austin instead of Mingo.

    As for Jarvis Jones, my only concern is his age (he'll turn 24 during his rookie season, and the Steelers typically prefer to draft 20 year olds with premium picks...the Steelers may actually prefer someone like Damontre Moore, who is 20 now and will turn 21 during his rookie year). In my mind, Jones laid the USC stenosis concerns to rest with his performance during his years at UGa, and the underwear Olympic numbers are substantially less important to me than his numbers on the actual football field, which have been dominant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    I actually considered giving the Jets Cordarelle Patterson or Tavon Austin instead of Mingo.

    As for Jarvis Jones, my only concern is his age (he'll turn 24 during his rookie season, and the Steelers typically prefer to draft 20 year olds with premium picks...the Steelers may actually prefer someone like Damontre Moore, who is 20 now and will turn 21 during his rookie year). In my mind, Jones laid the USC stenosis concerns to rest with his performance during his years at UGa, and the underwear Olympic numbers are substantially less important to me than his numbers on the actual football field, which have been dominant.
    He dominated against slow footed tackles in the SEC. Take a look at his Florida and Missouri games this year. Now go take a look at his game against Texas A&M. He was stoned constantly in this game.

    I would consider him in the 2nd round as a 3-4 ILB. I think he could dominate in that role.
    Here comes the BOOM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRob View Post
    He dominated against slow footed tackles in the SEC. Take a look at his Florida and Missouri games this year. Now go take a look at his game against Texas A&M. He was stoned constantly in this game.

    I would consider him in the 2nd round as a 3-4 ILB. I think he could dominate in that role.
    This has to be the first time I have heard a prospect be put down because of the lousy competition in the miserable SEC.

    Texas A&M has Luke Joeckel and Jake Matthews as their bookend tackles. Joeckel is expected to be the #1 overall pick this year with Matthews likely to come off the board early in the first round next year (not #1, though, because Clowney will be coming out next year).

    Putting down Jones because he wasn't able to sack the QB against Joeckel would be like putting down Lawrence Taylor because he didn't get a sack against Anthony Munoz.

    The best pass rushers in football typically average about a sack a game in their best seasons (for example, the high water mark for James Harrison was 16 sacks in 15 games in 2008...1.067 sacks per game for Deebo in his best year). Jones had 14.5 sacks in 12 games this year, and 13.5 sacks in 14 games last year. That's 28 sacks in 26 games at Georgia...which comes out ot 1.077 sacks per game in his career in Athens. If even the very best players only average a sack per game, is it surprising when they don't record a sack in their only game against the team with better starting OT's than most NFL teams?

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    It seems that everyone has Werner falling hard. He was generally considered a top 5 guy up until about a month ago, and now I keep seeing him fall way past us. There just seems to be an abundance of outside rushers and many think that Werner takes the fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o. View Post
    It seems that everyone has Werner falling hard. He was generally considered a top 5 guy up until about a month ago, and now I keep seeing him fall way past us. There just seems to be an abundance of outside rushers and many think that Werner takes the fall.
    I've heard a lot of commentators say he did well against lesser talent but not so well against better competition. I didn't watch any of his games so I can't confirm.

    I would take Margus Hunt, the Eastern Bloc, if we had need for a DE though.
    1. C.J. Mosley LB Alabama
    2. Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
    3. (comp) Philip Gaines CB Rice
    4. Arthur Lynch TE Georgia
    5. Ross Cockrell CB Duke
    5. (comp) Derrick Hopkins DT Virginia Tech
    6. Josh Mauro DE Stanford
    6. (comp) Shaquil Barrett OLB Colorado State
    7. Quincy Enunwa WR Nebraska

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