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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    Getting an impact player in year 1 seems to be your primary criteria for your first round pick, but not mine.

    Just look at the last two Troys that we drafted in the first round.

    Troy #1 was an impact player in year 1 (61 catches for 714 yards and 5 TD's), while Troy #2 was not an impact player in year 1 (no starts, 30 tackles). Over the long haul, as we all know, one is viewed as a bust, while the other is viewed as a Hall of Famer.

    My primary criteria for a 1st round pick is excellence over the long haul, regardless of whether or not the player makes an immediate impact. The biggest leap in a player's career should take place between his first and second season...whatever we get out of a guy during his rookie campaign is icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned.

    By the way, this is not a knock on the Ertz pick whatsoever (in fact, he was in my first trade-down mock draft)...I like the idea of getting him in a trade down in the first or a trade up in the second, since I see Ertz and Eifert as borderline 1st/2nd round guys. I can't envision a scenario where a TE is the best player available at 17 if we stay there.

    Obviously I'm not looking for a player to contribute in Year 1 and then vanish like Troy E. However, I don't accept the fact that a player needs to be invisible in Year 1 either as a trade off for future success. There is no way Troy P. shouldn't have played in year 1 except for the attitude of the Def Coord. Was there really a better DB on the team Troy P's rookie year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    Obviously I'm not looking for a player to contribute in Year 1 and then vanish like Troy E. However, I don't accept the fact that a player needs to be invisible in Year 1 either as a trade off for future success. There is no way Troy P. shouldn't have played in year 1 except for the attitude of the Def Coord. Was there really a better DB on the team Troy P's rookie year?
    Yes. Troy was not great his rookie year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    Yes. Troy was not great his rookie year.
    Please tell me which of the following was a better player at Safety that Troy should not of played significant time? BTW whoever it was they must not have been too good for that great 6-10 team.

    • 27 Brent Alexander FS
    • 28 Chris Hope FS
    • 29 Chidi Iwuoma CB
    • 31 Mike Logan SS
    • 43 Troy Polamalu SS
    • 30 Chad Scott CB
    • 33 Russell Stuvaints SS
    • 24 Ike Taylor CB
    • 26 Deshea Townsend CB
    • 20 Dewayne Washington CB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    Yes. Troy was not great his rookie year.
    Absolutely right. His rookie year he took a while to adjust to the game and often looked slow when he was on the field (due to the adjustment time), hence the "Bustamalu" label.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    Sunny and high 70s must mean it is time for yet another mock draft

    Round 1: Zach Ertz, TE, 6’6” 252lbs, Stanford
    Round 2: Barrett Jones, OL, 6’5” 302lbs, Alabama
    Round 3: DJ Swearinger, S, 5’11” 210 lbs. South Carolina
    Round 4: Jonathan Bostic, ILB, 6’ 1” 245lbs, Florida
    Round 5: Ray Graham, RB 5’9” 192lbs, Pitt
    Round 6: Aaron Mellete, WR, 6’3” 216lbs, Elon
    Round 7: Collin Klein, QB, 6’ 5” 218lbs, K State
    Love this TE... however, i wouldnt' take him in the 1st. We got bigger fish to fry...
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    DeVille's Late-March Mock (In Progress)
    1.20 - Jackson Powers-Johnson, C, Oregon
    2.51 - "WR/DL/CB" (tbd)
    3.84 -
    "WR/DL/CB" (tbd)
    3.98 - "WR/DL/CB" (tbd)
    4.117 - Jordan Travis, QB, FSU
    6.178 -Travis Glover, OT, Ga State
    6.195 - Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville





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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    Obviously I'm not looking for a player to contribute in Year 1 and then vanish like Troy E. However, I don't accept the fact that a player needs to be invisible in Year 1 either as a trade off for future success. There is no way Troy P. shouldn't have played in year 1 except for the attitude of the Def Coord. Was there really a better DB on the team Troy P's rookie year?
    I about puked when they drafted Troy E... was certain they'd take Jevon kearse....
    2013 MNF Executive Champion!

    DeVille's Late-March Mock (In Progress)
    1.20 - Jackson Powers-Johnson, C, Oregon
    2.51 - "WR/DL/CB" (tbd)
    3.84 -
    "WR/DL/CB" (tbd)
    3.98 - "WR/DL/CB" (tbd)
    4.117 - Jordan Travis, QB, FSU
    6.178 -Travis Glover, OT, Ga State
    6.195 - Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville





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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerOfDeVille View Post
    I about puked when they drafted Troy E... was certain they'd take Jevon kearse....
    I knew Torry Holt would be gone, so I was hoping for David Boston (D'Oh). When Boston was off the board, I was looking at either Kearse or OT John Tait. The Edwards pick truly shocked me right away (not with 20/20 hindsight).
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Ovi, I love the picks. I have been pointing towards Ertz as our 1st rounder for some time now. It would be great if we could trade back and still take him. Only if there is a dominant pass rusher still on the board would I pass up Ertz.

    I also like the 7th rounder Klein. His play is spotty at times but dynamic at other times. He could mature into a good solid backup.
    As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

    but Go Steelers!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lloydroid View Post
    If they take a TE in the 1st round, I am going to quit following them.
    Would show you to be the type of fan we know you to really be.
    Here comes the BOOM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRob View Post
    Would show you to be the type of fan we know you to really be.

    BTW BR--like your mock in your sig. Would prefer to see a RB somewhere
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