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    We Must Hit It Big In The Draft or 8-8 seasons will become common.

    I know the FO will do everything possible to improve the team, Rooney came out public and said this season is unacceptable and changes will be made.
    He also said we better have the players to replace the ones that won't be here.

    With the cap situation and few dollars to sign FA's its imperative we do well in the draft in order to improve as a team, even with that, the reality is we don't have enough quality players to step up and play at a high level.

    You can't lose Harrison, Mendy, Wallace, three of your O-lineman, and expect to compete for a championship. Oh, we'll be competitive but I thinks its going to take at least two great draft years to get back to be a playoff team.
    If we lose Colon, Starks, and Foster who in the hell is going to play on that o-lin e if someone gets injured?

    Who do we have that can take James Harrison's place?

    We'll need another receiver but who will be as good as Wallace right away?

    I didn't even mention RB, or the possibility of Foote leaving so as you can see they have their work cut out for them.

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    I want to hit it big and I too think it is important but you are exaggerating the importance of it as well as ignoring the biggest factor in this teams success as well as why it went 8-8.

    Their star QB needs to be healthy. Plan and simple. If they draft a great player in this draft yet isn't a factor until 2014 yet Ben stays healthy this team will be on the over-side of 8-8. And way over it.


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    1--Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma State
    2--Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
    3-- -- Traded --
    3B--C.J. Fiedorwicz TE Iowa
    4--Jordan Tripp ILB Montana
    5--Brent Urban DE Virginia
    6--Michael Schofield OT Michigan
    7--Kadeem Edwards OG Tennessee State









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    Im not ignoring the injuries, I took that into consideration but thats with our current team. I'm talking about the projections of losing the above players even with a healthy Ben.

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    Their star QB needs to be healthy. Plan and simple. If they draft a great player in this draft yet isn't a factor until 2014 yet Ben stays healthy this team will be on the over-side of 8-8. And way over it.

    Considering the players we will lose, saying we will be way over 8-8 next season is exaggerating the facts the Steelers have to deal with.

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    Probably more important than 'who they draft in 2013' is 'who they drafted leading up to 2013'.

    Guys like Worilds, McLendon, Sanders, Redman, Dwyer & Cortez Allen are the keys to success or failure in 2013 in many ways. They'll be the ones asked to fill the holes opened up on the roster- not the 2013 rookies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    Probably more important than 'who they draft in 2013' is 'who they drafted leading up to 2013'.

    Guys like Worilds, McLendon, Sanders, Redman, Dwyer & Cortez Allen are the keys to success or failure in 2013 in many ways. They'll be the ones asked to fill the holes opened up on the roster- not the 2013 rookies.
    I think we can add Adams and Gilbert to that list. I don't think we'll bring Starks back next year. With cash in short supply, I think the team will roll with our highly drafted tackles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    Probably more important than 'who they draft in 2013' is 'who they drafted leading up to 2013'.

    Guys like Worilds, McLendon, Sanders, Redman, Dwyer & Cortez Allen are the keys to success or failure in 2013 in many ways. They'll be the ones asked to fill the holes opened up on the roster- not the 2013 rookies.
    Pssst ... Redman and McLendon weren't drafted.

    but I agree with what you are saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikestops85 View Post
    Pssst ... Redman and McLendon weren't drafted.

    but I agree with what you are saying.
    You kiddin? They were 8th rounders, for sure..
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    supersteeler said AR2 said " we better have the players to replace the ones that won't be here."

    Hmm! Wonder what he meant by that?

    If that is an exact quote, and I was Colbert, I would be already starting to kick some scout butt, and expect some serious bush beating pronto.

    Does anyone recall something I heard occurred in the mid 80's. Apparently the drafting was not so hot and some guy named Arthur Rooney[okay Jr.] got canned. This if true always made me laugh. Hey don't think for a minute that these Steelers don't take this game serious.

    In another thread totally unrelated to draft success or not the 2006 year came up. You could not help but notice that only one of the players drafted was still here. and only one other was a winner. But what was easy to overlook was the only player left was Willie Colon a 4th rd pick from Hofstra?? [who knew they even played football] and nearly all the rest [duds]were from BIG schools with major programs. Which is what the following is about.

    1. There is evidence, discussed below, that suggests that certain major producers of football talent
    are so heavily scouted that a player with a scintilla of talent from those schools is considered a
    safer choice than a more talented player from a smaller school
    The following table supports the contention that there is a draft bias toward certain colleges. This table
    shows information for ten of the major producers of NFL talent.

    2.
    The following table at least partially contradicts that contention. This table lists the top 10 colleges in the number of starts by undrafted players. Seven colleges from the Automatic Qualifier conferences are included in this top 10.

    3. This top ten list does present some startling information. First, Kent State is the leader among all
    colleges in games started by undrafted players. It gets even better. Kent State has more starts than the
    combined total of the 10 major colleges listed above (258 vs. 177). Further, Kent State and Maine (a
    college with no starts from drafted players) account for over 5% of the total starts by undrafted players.
    Who would have guessed that one? It is also worth noting that five schools (Maine, Southern Illinois,
    Northern Iowa, Richmond and Eastern Illinois) account for nearly 40% of the starts from undrafted
    players from the All Other Colleges.

    ----These are just some of the conclusions drawn from the numerous charts and stuff on the site. There is too much to post here. But this is just a smidge of the info on draft data there. If interested in this kind of stuff check out the link.

    http://www.draftmetrics.com/

    btw: The site is run by life long Steeler fans. Some of the info on TS is interesting. What I took from this was TS should be paying more attention to the smaller school players on these fringe picks. Antonio Brown anyone?













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    Quote Originally Posted by supersteeler View Post
    Im not ignoring the injuries, I took that into consideration but thats with our current team. I'm talking about the projections of losing the above players even with a healthy Ben.

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    Their star QB needs to be healthy. Plan and simple. If they draft a great player in this draft yet isn't a factor until 2014 yet Ben stays healthy this team will be on the over-side of 8-8. And way over it.

    Considering the players we will lose, saying we will be way over 8-8 next season is exaggerating the facts the Steelers have to deal with.
    This Organization will not lose any significant player that they need or that they don't already have a viable replacement for. This is the Pittsburgh Steelers...not sure if you have ever heard of them?


    Steelers 2014 Draft

    1--Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma State
    2--Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
    3-- -- Traded --
    3B--C.J. Fiedorwicz TE Iowa
    4--Jordan Tripp ILB Montana
    5--Brent Urban DE Virginia
    6--Michael Schofield OT Michigan
    7--Kadeem Edwards OG Tennessee State









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    [QUOTE=Dee Dub;548007]This Organization will not lose any significant player that they need or that they don't already have a viable replacement for. This is the Pittsburgh Steelers...not sure if you have ever heard of them?[/QUOTE]


    Listen Bud, I'm a life long fan of this team so please don't question my allegiance to the team I love, unless you want to start some BS

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