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Thread: List of Steelers First round draft picks, time for a Corner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    "2008 — Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois (23) — Worst pick of the Kevin Colbert era. Highly regarded RB prospect, surprisingly available at 23, tremendous cutting/acceleration skills, entered draft too early, somewhat aloof, not ideally physical enough for every-down NFL back, played best ball during 2010 season that helped team reach Super Bowl."

    Worst pick of the Colbert era? How quickly people forget. Mendenhall might not be everyone's idea of the 'ideal Steeler', but geez, he's nowhere near as bad as people want to make him out to be.

    Here's betting if his viewpoint on Sept 11 was more in keeping with what the majority of society wanted him to believe, then this sort of crap about him being a bad draft pick would be more muted.
    Colbert has been GM since 2000. What picks were worse than Mendenhall in that span? The only one I see is Simmons. Only other possible argument (and it's too early to tell, really) is Hood or Heyward. No other picks are as bad as Spindenhall.

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    Sweed was our worst pick... Mendenhall isnt anywhere near the worst but he is a disappointment IMO. He has shown flashes but aloof is a good word to describe his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    "2008 Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois (23) Worst pick of the Kevin Colbert era. Highly regarded RB prospect, surprisingly available at 23, tremendous cutting/acceleration skills, entered draft too early, somewhat aloof, not ideally physical enough for every-down NFL back, played best ball during 2010 season that helped team reach Super Bowl."

    Worst pick of the Colbert era? How quickly people forget. Mendenhall might not be everyone's idea of the 'ideal Steeler', but geez, he's nowhere near as bad as people want to make him out to be.

    Here's betting if his viewpoint on Sept 11 was more in keeping with what the majority of society wanted him to believe, then this sort of crap about him being a bad draft pick would be more muted.
    Colbert has really hit in the first round. Simmons was never the same after his diabetes, but even he started on a SB winning team. Mendenhall really only had 1.5 good seasons with the Steelers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyesq View Post
    Colbert has really hit in the first round. Simmons was never the same after his diabetes, but even he started on a SB winning team. Mendenhall really only had 1.5 good seasons with the Steelers.
    While Chadman can understand that Mendenhall wasn't what people hoped for- is that Mendenhall's fault, or are we too busy trying to find another Bettis?

    Mendenhall had 5 seasons in Pittsburgh. We can write off 2008 due to the broken collarbone, and we can write off 2012 due to the knee issue & what seems to be disenchantment with his place in Pittsburgh's roster this season.

    2009 gave us 1100+ yards at 4.6 ypc & 7 TD's, while adding 25 catches for 260 yards & another TD. That's a pretty good year right there.

    2010 we got 1270+ yards at 3.9 ypc & 13 TD's, while adding 23 catches for 167 yards. That's pretty good too.

    2011 we got 928 yards at 4.1 (remembering he missed the last game with his injured knee) & 9 TD's along with 18 catches for 150+ yards.

    That's 3 productive seasons there. And while we can often forgive Ben for his sacks due to the OL's ineptness, can't we attribute some blame to them for some of Mendenhall's failings?

    One last thing on Mendenhall, why was he the one that had to sit a game due to the fumble-a-thon in Cleveland when Rainey, Brown, Sanders, Dwyer & Redman got to play the next week? They ALL fumbled that game away, yet Mendenhall takes the fall?

    While it was unprofessional to miss standing around the sidelines that next week, one does have to wonder if there was an element of victimisation going on there too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    While Chadman can understand that Mendenhall wasn't what people hoped for- is that Mendenhall's fault, or are we too busy trying to find another Bettis?

    Mendenhall had 5 seasons in Pittsburgh. We can write off 2008 due to the broken collarbone, and we can write off 2012 due to the knee issue & what seems to be disenchantment with his place in Pittsburgh's roster this season.

    2009 gave us 1100+ yards at 4.6 ypc & 7 TD's, while adding 25 catches for 260 yards & another TD. That's a pretty good year right there.

    2010 we got 1270+ yards at 3.9 ypc & 13 TD's, while adding 23 catches for 167 yards. That's pretty good too.

    2011 we got 928 yards at 4.1 (remembering he missed the last game with his injured knee) & 9 TD's along with 18 catches for 150+ yards.

    That's 3 productive seasons there. And while we can often forgive Ben for his sacks due to the OL's ineptness, can't we attribute some blame to them for some of Mendenhall's failings?

    One last thing on Mendenhall, why was he the one that had to sit a game due to the fumble-a-thon in Cleveland when Rainey, Brown, Sanders, Dwyer & Redman got to play the next week? They ALL fumbled that game away, yet Mendenhall takes the fall?

    While it was unprofessional to miss standing around the sidelines that next week, one does have to wonder if there was an element of victimisation going on there too.
    Some good points, no matter what we think of Mendy he still was our best back often in Tomlins Dog House, while the others seemed to get a pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    While Chadman can understand that Mendenhall wasn't what people hoped for- is that Mendenhall's fault, or are we too busy trying to find another Bettis?

    Mendenhall had 5 seasons in Pittsburgh. We can write off 2008 due to the broken collarbone, and we can write off 2012 due to the knee issue & what seems to be disenchantment with his place in Pittsburgh's roster this season.

    2009 gave us 1100+ yards at 4.6 ypc & 7 TD's, while adding 25 catches for 260 yards & another TD. That's a pretty good year right there.

    2010 we got 1270+ yards at 3.9 ypc & 13 TD's, while adding 23 catches for 167 yards. That's pretty good too.

    2011 we got 928 yards at 4.1 (remembering he missed the last game with his injured knee) & 9 TD's along with 18 catches for 150+ yards.

    That's 3 productive seasons there. And while we can often forgive Ben for his sacks due to the OL's ineptness, can't we attribute some blame to them for some of Mendenhall's failings?

    One last thing on Mendenhall, why was he the one that had to sit a game due to the fumble-a-thon in Cleveland when Rainey, Brown, Sanders, Dwyer & Redman got to play the next week? They ALL fumbled that game away, yet Mendenhall takes the fall?

    While it was unprofessional to miss standing around the sidelines that next week, one does have to wonder if there was an element of victimisation going on there too.
    Thank you. He was also a main reason for our success during the Ben suspension, basically carrying the team through those games. Mendenhall behind a cohesive offensive line has the ability to be the tailback the fan base wants in Pittsburgh. Despite all the stuff that happened this year they're still supposedly talking to him about a contract extension. He has break away speed, quick feet and size. He's played behind arguably one of the least consistent lines in all of football, add in the injuries and it only gets worse. I 100% agree that Ben gets a pass because he's had success behind porous o-lines but it's much more difficult for a RB to have success behind a porous line therefore Mendenhall should get a pass too. All of which assumes people continue to ignore the 3 productive seasons he did have and how he came out against Philly this year before getting dinged, then coming back and fumbling and promptly going to the dog house. I just hope we resign him because he's not going to cost a ton and has a lot of potential if our line can stay healthy and continue to improve. People calling the dude a bust is ridiculous....busts don't have 3 1000 yard seasons with solid td totals (the 3rd season being stopped short of 1000 because of injury which Chadman pointed out).

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    Mendy was probably in Tomlins dog house because he is aloof at times. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    While Chadman can understand that Mendenhall wasn't what people hoped for- is that Mendenhall's fault, or are we too busy trying to find another Bettis?

    Mendenhall had 5 seasons in Pittsburgh. We can write off 2008 due to the broken collarbone, and we can write off 2012 due to the knee issue & what seems to be disenchantment with his place in Pittsburgh's roster this season.

    2009 gave us 1100+ yards at 4.6 ypc & 7 TD's, while adding 25 catches for 260 yards & another TD. That's a pretty good year right there.

    2010 we got 1270+ yards at 3.9 ypc & 13 TD's, while adding 23 catches for 167 yards. That's pretty good too.

    2011 we got 928 yards at 4.1 (remembering he missed the last game with his injured knee) & 9 TD's along with 18 catches for 150+ yards.

    That's 3 productive seasons there. And while we can often forgive Ben for his sacks due to the OL's ineptness, can't we attribute some blame to them for some of Mendenhall's failings?

    One last thing on Mendenhall, why was he the one that had to sit a game due to the fumble-a-thon in Cleveland when Rainey, Brown, Sanders, Dwyer & Redman got to play the next week? They ALL fumbled that game away, yet Mendenhall takes the fall?

    While it was unprofessional to miss standing around the sidelines that next week, one does have to wonder if there was an element of victimisation going on there too.
    When you review the FA RBs available, all of them have some kind of issue. They either have too much time in the league or they have never been a workhorse type back themself. I guess people think there is some pristine back who will do everything well without an issue. Those types are once in 10 year kinds of players that don't often come around. Mendenhall really is about the best FA back there, for the Steelers. He is still relatively young at 25-26. He has been a workhorse type of player. He has good speed and is well conditioned.

    If they draft someone who is well regarded and they feel confident in, I'm fine with parting ways with Mendenhall, but coming back only with Dwyer, Redman and a question mark? I'm not too sure about. If Dwyer would get in top condition, he could maybe assume the role, but I can't expect him to. He can't be Bettis and play great with a pot belly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    While Chadman can understand that Mendenhall wasn't what people hoped for- is that Mendenhall's fault, or are we too busy trying to find another Bettis?

    Mendenhall had 5 seasons in Pittsburgh. We can write off 2008 due to the broken collarbone, and we can write off 2012 due to the knee issue & what seems to be disenchantment with his place in Pittsburgh's roster this season.

    2009 gave us 1100+ yards at 4.6 ypc & 7 TD's, while adding 25 catches for 260 yards & another TD. That's a pretty good year right there.

    2010 we got 1270+ yards at 3.9 ypc & 13 TD's, while adding 23 catches for 167 yards. That's pretty good too.

    2011 we got 928 yards at 4.1 (remembering he missed the last game with his injured knee) & 9 TD's along with 18 catches for 150+ yards.

    That's 3 productive seasons there. And while we can often forgive Ben for his sacks due to the OL's ineptness, can't we attribute some blame to them for some of Mendenhall's failings?

    One last thing on Mendenhall, why was he the one that had to sit a game due to the fumble-a-thon in Cleveland when Rainey, Brown, Sanders, Dwyer & Redman got to play the next week? They ALL fumbled that game away, yet Mendenhall takes the fall?

    While it was unprofessional to miss standing around the sidelines that next week, one does have to wonder if there was an element of victimisation going on there too.
    Good points, Chadman, but remember, in 2009, Mendenhall did not open the season as the starter. He started on the bench and I'm pretty sure he had one game where he got no carries after a poor week of preparation. He finished strong, and 2010 was a generally good year. In 2011, his overall numbers look ok, but that is an average of just under 62 yards a game - not very impressive.

    I never wanted him to be another Bettis - I wanted to see a combination of speed and power. He still has the best natural physical abilities of any of the Steelers backs, but he has never been elite or even close to it. At his best, he was above average, and he was not at his best for a significant portion of his tenure.

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    I think if they re-sign Lewis I am fine with Taylor, Lewis, Allen as the top 3 corners. I would not be opposed to spending a third or fourth as competition to Brown. If Lewis goes than I think a corner in the first 2 rounds becomes a reality.
    I would prefer to see Lewis return so that corner does not become a need early in the draft. The CBs may actually be an area of strength, after years of us hoping that the Steelers would find a corner. I would rather they keep the guys that they have then start from scratch.

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