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Thread: Walterfootball.com's latest mock has JARVIS JONES falling to the Steelers!

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    LT didn't work out either. He was kind of OK. This kid won't fall all the way to 17 unless he fails drug test or something like that. He has pure athletic skill and kills it on game day. I won't even bother thinking about him falling to 17 as it just ain't gonna happen.

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    Jones' description reads a lot like what they say about Geno Atkins (not a practice warrior, etc), and look how that has turned out..... just sayin...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    Ditto! He'd also look pretty good as a 4-3 DE
    Ovi, you crack me up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    Ditto! He'd also look pretty good as a 4-3 DE
    He won't be playing for the Steelers then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    I like me some Ziggy Ansah. Even though he is raw and relatively new to the game, he was still a dominant force during the Senior Bowl game.
    Ruthless, I sort of agree. This kid really intrigues me. I've seen him three times this year. Once, he looked confused and disinterested. Another time (San Diego State) he worked harder, but was fooled too often in the first half. In the second, he seemed to figure out the blocking scheme and forced the offense to work away from him. And, finally, at the senior bowl, when he just cut loose, he was dominant.

    It will take him a year or two in the least to reach his potential. And, what is his position if the Steelers take him? If we play a 3-4, is he an OLB or a DE or a nickel pass rusher. Given that he is still learning, we would need to pick a position for him and stick to it. Personally, I think he will be most effective in a tampa 2 where he can play DE where he simply sets the edge vs the run and goes after the passer on pass plays.
    Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelblood View Post
    Ruthless, I sort of agree. This kid really intrigues me. I've seen him three times this year. Once, he looked confused and disinterested. Another time (San Diego State) he worked harder, but was fooled too often in the first half. In the second, he seemed to figure out the blocking scheme and forced the offense to work away from him. And, finally, at the senior bowl, when he just cut loose, he was dominant.

    It will take him a year or two in the least to reach his potential. And, what is his position if the Steelers take him? If we play a 3-4, is he an OLB or a DE or a nickel pass rusher. Given that he is still learning, we would need to pick a position for him and stick to it. Personally, I think he will be most effective in a tampa 2 where he can play DE where he simply sets the edge vs the run and goes after the passer on pass plays.
    He could contribute right away with his hand in the dirt as a DE in the nickel and dime defenses (that's essentially all that Aldon Smith did as a rookie, since he wasn't good enough against the run early on to play full time, and he certainly had an impact as a pass rusher). It will take some time for him to learn to play 3-4 OLB in our scheme, but eventually, that is where he would end up (it would be a waste to have him bulk up to become a 3-4 DE). If Harrison is a cap casualty, I could live for a year or maybe even two with Worilds at OLB on early downs, and Ansah as a pass rushing DE in nickel and dime, until the kid is ready for prime time. Unlike some folks on the board, I'm not hung up on how much of an impact that a rookie first round pick will have right away...I'm more concerned with the long-term, and this guys looks like he could be a dynamite long-term investment.


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    Jones will be offf the board by the time the draft reaches pick 6 and if he's not, there will be a regret or two.

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    no way he makes it to 17

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    While I also do not believe that Jones makes it to 17, I do believe that there will be a premier pass rusher available for the Steelers to select...I think both need and value will dovetail once again for the black and gold...

    Jones, Jordan, Anzah...I truly think one of those three will be there...

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    He fits...A hell of a football player....
    But there is a reason why someone so productive would fall this far to begin with.
    So for a kid who will be 24 and his medical...I would pass too.

    There is only one OLB I would take at #17 and that would be Moore. I highly doubt he would even make it out of the Top 10.
    Retain Worilds or Sign Brandon Graham OLB
    Sign FA RB (???)

    Draft:
    1st Waynes CB/ Collins CB / Peters CB
    2nd Eli Harold OLB
    3rd Jesse James TE
    4th Eric Rowe DB
    5th Karlos Williams RB
    6A Xavier Williams NT
    6B Ray Drew DE
    7th Max Garcia OL

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