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    Walterfootball.com's latest mock has JARVIS JONES falling to the Steelers!

    Pittsburgh Steelers: Jarvis Jones, DE/OLB, Georgia
    Boom. Jarvis Jones drops to No. 17 overall in this mock. I had Jones going No. 2 overall a couple of updates ago, but check out Charlie's rumor mill entry on why Jones is expected to slide.

    I believe dumb groupthink will cause Jones to fall on Draft Day. General managers will be petrified of his spine issue. But, as smart teams like the Steelers, Giants, Ravens, etc. often do, they'll snatch up a plummeting draft prospect and laugh at all of the dumb organizations constantly picking in the top 10 as they field yet another Pro Bowler.

    Jones isn't just the best player available; he fills a big need as well. James Harrison may not be back next year. He'll be due $6.6 million as a 35-year-old who is having trouble staying healthy. The Steelers may spend an early pick on a rush linebacker.
    http://walterfootball.com/draft2013_1.php

    For what it's worth, here is that aforementioned rumor mill entry about why Jones is expected to slide:

    Jarvis Jones Expected To Slide on Draft Day
    Published Jan. 18, 2013
    By Charlie Campbell - @draftcampbell

    Georgia outside linebacker Jarvis Jones had been one of the most dominant football players in college football the past two seasons. He's destroyed the SEC for those two years, as many consider him to be one of the most talented players in the 2013 NFL Draft class. Jones is on top of my 2013 NFL Draft Big Board, as well as ESPN's Mel Kiper's.

    However, after speaking with scouts at the East-West Shrine Game who have Jones in their territory, they say they expect Jones to slide down and fall out of the top five next April.

    The scouts said there are a few reasons that could add up to Jones falling into the 6-10 range. First of all, the scouts said that Jones is not a good workout guy. They don't believe that he is going to test well or stand out in the Combine or pre-draft workouts. Area scouts who cover Georgia say that Jones is not a weight-room guy. He doesn't put a lot of work in during the week, but would show up on Saturday and dominate naturally.

    They said that Jones is a good guy and a good teammate, but just isn't a tireless worker. As one scout said, "Don't get me wrong, if you watch his tapes you'll say he is worth being the No. 1 rated player and going in the top five of the draft. You can watch him on Saturdays and see that this guy is animal. He's clearly the best player on the field, but not a guy that you'll be in love with during the week. Add in the medical concern and with the testing, and I think he's going to slide some on Draft Day."

    Jones' medical condition is a spinal stenosis that happened as a freshman at USC. On a routine hit against Oregon, Jones sustained the injury. A specialist told him he would be fine, but USC's doctors wouldn't clear him and told him he should retire from football. After transferring to Georgia, Jones broke out as one of the best players in college football.

    As a junior, Jones had 85 tackles, 14.5 sacks, 24.5 tackles for a loss, seven forced fumbles, three passes broken up and one interception in 2012. Jones had massive performances against Florida and Missouri with consistently good outings all year. Jones led the nation in sacks and for the second straight season had the most sacks in the SEC.

    In 2011, he tied for the second-most sacks in the nation, 13.5. He also had 70 tackles with 19.5 tackles for a loss and two forced fumbles.

    Jones could be a classic example of teams overthinking the draft process. Over the history of the draft, good players have slid because of an unnecessary medical concerns or not working out well at the Combine. If Jones plays in the NFL like he did at Georgia, he'll reward whomever takes him on Draft Day with plenty of teams feeling regret.
    http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftru...arvisjonesfall

    In my mind, the neck injury scare at USC was answered by a couple of excellent seasons at UGa. I couldn't care less if he doesn't test well at the Combine or in pre-draft workouts...the tape he's put out there matters much more than that. Dude looks like another Von Miller to me. If he somehow slid to us, I would be ecstatic. We'd have our Harrison replacement and a scary pass rush once again.


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    That would be great if he drops to us. I think that is our biggest need right now. Do you think something like this could happen 2 years in a row?
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    Bring him on. Pay Mike Adams to blow pot smoke in his face the night before the combine pee test then snatch him up at 17

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Pittsburgh View Post
    Bring him on. Pay Mike Adams to blow pot smoke in his face the night before the combine pee test then snatch him up at 17
    Lol.

    I seen on another mock the Lions might pick him. From what I read and heard he's a good player and could eventually be Silverbacks replacement, but if he's that good I doubt he's there @17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supersteeler View Post
    Lol.

    I seen on another mock the Lions might pick him. From what I read and heard he's a good player and could eventually be Silverbacks replacement, but if he's that good I doubt he's there @17.
    I agree. Him being at #17 would be a bigger shocker than DeCastro being there by a million miles. More likely we see pass rushers like Ansah or Dion Jordan at #17.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    I agree. Him being at #17 would be a bigger shocker than DeCastro being there by a million miles. More likely we see pass rushers like Ansah or Dion Jordan at #17.
    I like me some Ziggy Ansah. Even though he is raw and relatively new to the game, he was still a dominant force during the Senior Bowl game.


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    2.46 TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington
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    6.192 CB Walt Aikens, Liberty
    6.215c DE Deandre Coleman, California
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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    I like me some Ziggy Ansah. Even though he is raw and relatively new to the game, he was still a dominant force during the Senior Bowl game.
    Ditto! He'd also look pretty good as a 4-3 DE
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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    I like me some Ziggy Ansah. Even though he is raw and relatively new to the game, he was still a dominant force during the Senior Bowl game.
    Ruthless, I sort of agree. This kid really intrigues me. I've seen him three times this year. Once, he looked confused and disinterested. Another time (San Diego State) he worked harder, but was fooled too often in the first half. In the second, he seemed to figure out the blocking scheme and forced the offense to work away from him. And, finally, at the senior bowl, when he just cut loose, he was dominant.

    It will take him a year or two in the least to reach his potential. And, what is his position if the Steelers take him? If we play a 3-4, is he an OLB or a DE or a nickel pass rusher. Given that he is still learning, we would need to pick a position for him and stick to it. Personally, I think he will be most effective in a tampa 2 where he can play DE where he simply sets the edge vs the run and goes after the passer on pass plays.
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    No more players who "fall" to us...

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    No more players who "fall" to us...
    I like when players "fall" to us. I don't like when one of our players "fall" on said player.
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