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Thread: Remember NOBODY here wanted J Caldwell as our OC?

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    Remember NOBODY here wanted J Caldwell as our OC?

    Including ME.

    When Tomlin considered him there was a collective NOOOO from this board

    On NO topic was there greater consensus.

    We all thought Peyton "made him"
    Heck Peyton called his own plays

    After JC was made OC, Flacco had ONE bad game, the first game.

    Since then Flacco has killed it.
    He has been every bit as effective as any QB in this league
    Better than the rookie phenoms
    Better head to head than the reputed two best to get to the SB
    ZERO postseason picks, 8 TDs.

    Only ONE pick PERIOD since JC was made OC

    Ravens O has NEVER looked better
    Flacco has NEVER been more consistent
    Run game STILL flourishing
    OFFENSE for the first time is why the Ravens are successful

    They are where we want to be, directly because this team is a different beast due to Caldwell.
    NO WAY this team wins a shootout versus Peyton like they did, Peyton STILL owns the Ravens defense.

    Shows what we dumb message board types really know.

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    Including ME.

    When Tomlin considered him there was a collective NOOOO from this board

    On NO topic was there greater consensus.

    We all thought Peyton "made him"
    Heck Peyton called his own plays

    After JC was made OC, Flacco had ONE bad game, the first game.

    Since then Flacco has killed it.
    He has been every bit as effective as any QB in this league
    Better than the rookie phenoms
    Better head to head than the reputed two best to get to the SB
    ZERO postseason picks, 8 TDs.

    Only ONE pick PERIOD since JC was made OC

    Ravens O has NEVER looked better
    Flacco has NEVER been more consistent
    Run game STILL flourishing
    OFFENSE for the first time is why the Ravens are successful

    They are where we want to be, directly because this team is a different beast due to Caldwell.
    NO WAY this team wins a shootout versus Peyton like they did, Peyton STILL owns the Ravens defense.

    Shows what we dumb message board types really know.

    Thoughts?
    Your bias come through big time. Your attributing success to one man without considering other improvements that may have lead to Flacco's success.

    Mainly that they changed up their O-line at this time. Mckinnie came out of the doghouse to play left tackle. That moved Oher to right tackle and Osemele to left guard. They now go Mckinnie, Osemele, Birk, Yanda, Oher. They have been playing as an elite line since this change.

    You don't think having all day to throw is helping Flacco?
    Here comes the BOOM!

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    I wanted him big time. No one would listen. Dumb message board types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelCrazy View Post
    I wanted him big time. No one would listen. Dumb message board types.
    Clearly you are "biased" according to Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRob View Post
    Your bias come through big time. Your attributing success to one man without considering other improvements that may have lead to Flacco's success.

    Mainly that they changed up their O-line at this time. Mckinnie came out of the doghouse to play left tackle. That moved Oher to right tackle and Osemele to left guard. They now go Mckinnie, Osemele, Birk, Yanda, Oher. They have been playing as an elite line since this change.

    You don't think having all day to throw is helping Flacco?
    I agree with the success being due to the line. Flacco has had all day to throw, neither Denver and their big pass rush nor the Pats could lay a glove on him. He has simply been heaving the ball and letting his receivers do all of the work. If not for a performance by Champ Bailey that made Ike's game look all-pro by comparison, and Flacco's numbers are pedestrian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRob View Post
    Your bias come through big time. ......

    You don't think having all day to throw is helping Flacco?
    Bias? Really Rob, you gonna go THERE? Did ya miss the "self included" part?

    I did not want Caldwell, not by a longshot.

    I have DEFENDED our guy, Todd Haley on this very board. I was for his hire.

    I just read an article about the Flacco, which attributed his success largely to Caldwell.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...lacco-is-elite

    I immediately recalled the board and my personal prior negative thoughts on Caldwell, and was astonished by the obvious correlation between the Ravens offensive success and Caldwells taking over as OC.

    I aint up all night thinking about some need to validate Caldwell. This whole season I never gave the dude a second thought till this morning.

    Sure Rob, one can make the reasonable case that the Oline change has helped no doubt. But Flacco has had excellent Olines before.

    Why the need to deflect deserved credit from an OC that is making GREAT offensive calls?

    And you call ME biased?

    If your looking for bias, try this:

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    Quote Originally Posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o. View Post
    I agree with the success being due to the line. Flacco has had all day to throw, neither Denver and their big pass rush nor the Pats could lay a glove on him. He has simply been heaving the ball and letting his receivers do all of the work. If not for a performance by Champ Bailey that made Ike's game look all-pro by comparison, and Flacco's numbers are pedestrian.
    See what a good O-line can do.....where's Warmack

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    Hmmm..... Did Caldwell make the OL change? Regardless, it's working and they look like they will be a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    Why the need to deflect deserved credit from an OC that is making GREAT offensive calls?
    I think it's because it proves people wrong. I had no faith in the guy to be honest but I heard an interview where someone said it's still Cam's offense but Caldwell has the players believing it's now "THEIR" offense. Each skill player has input into what they like to do, what plays they like and what calls will put them in the best position to succeed. No one feels left out or under utilized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supersteeler View Post
    See what a good O-line can do.....where's Warmack
    I would love to have Warmack.

    What if....we draft him, Decastro and our young tackles make a huge leap in effectiveness.
    Our oline is the best Ben has ever had.
    At the same time we hire say...Chan Gailey again.

    What if we average 30 a game.

    The growth in the oline would be big .....but would Gailey not deserve praise for the job he has done?

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