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    You Won't Believe it but...

    In games that Ben played in:

    Avg number of deep passes thrown:

    2012 = 6.7

    2011 = 6.9

    So Haley called as many deeps balls as Arians and the myth of dink and dunk is just that.

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    Are these designed plays or Ben being Ben? Maybe its a myth but it sure looked like half of our deep passes werent by design. I also think we didn't have enough in the 15 to 20 yard range where our WR's could use their speed.

    What was his ypa this year? Pretty sure that was down.

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    What constitutes a 'deep pass' in those stats?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    What constitutes a 'deep pass' in those stats?
    >15 yds

    These are targets but as is noted, there is no way to know if it was designed or not.

    BUT, the number of deep targets this season were remarkably consistent among the games, so that tells me they were probably designed.

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    What was the percentage of mid-range & short targets from 2011 to 2012?
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    Was this YPC or passes that were actually in the air >15 yards? Brown took a few dinks and a couple of dunks to the + 15 yard zone, and that is YPC material.

    Either way Ben looked good before the injury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djfan View Post
    Was this YPC or passes that were actually in the air >15 yards? Brown took a few dinks and a couple of dunks to the + 15 yard zone, and that is YPC material.

    Either way Ben looked good before the injury.
    He was having the best season of his career. Not sure why people want to ignore that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    He was having the best season of his career. Not sure why people want to ignore that.
    Even though he was statistically a beast I think people were frustrated at how easy it was to beat us due to these 15 play drives that usually ended with a FG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    Even though he was statistically a beast I think people were frustrated at how easy it was to beat us due to these 15 play drives that usually ended with a FG.
    We were 6-3 when he got hurt (then lost 5 of the next 6 games).


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