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    We need Ben version 4.0

    Ben version 1.0 was the fresh-faced rookie, forced into playing time with incredible results as a rookie, with the team going 15-1 with him as the starting QB after Tommy Maddox went down (and who stunk at that point any how).

    Then, came Ben version 2.0, as an established veteran and proven winner, but obviously immature, too full of himself, as a Super Bowl-winning QB in a town that worships football. He obviously thought that societal rules didn't apply to him, with his piggish treatment of women and skipping out on massive bar tabs. (He thought since his presence brought in customers out of every nick and cranny, why should he have to pay his tab?) When it finally came to a head, Ben claims the character of "Big Ben" no longer exists. His mad partying and womanizing would cease...bringing us....

    Ben version 3.0. Now married, with a kid, Ben is no longer as wild and crazy with partying and being irresponsible off the field. Who knows what he does behind closed doors, but it's safe to say his public partying is heavily reduced. Ben version 3.0 has settled down to a degree, however, on the field he still shows major signs of still "just winging it" too often. We were bounced out of the post season because TWICE he through game-losing pics when the critical games were there for the taking, vs. Dallas and Cinci. There was also poor chemistry on the team, with roots towards Ben's carelessness and lack of pure professionalism - things you will never find on a Tom Brady team, which leads us for the next version of Ben....

    Ben 4.0. This version has to go beyond just settling down with public partying and womanizing to a version who takes the game more seriously. No longer any whining about the OC or play calling; no more careless "winging it" with bonehead decisions on where to pass the ball. Play like it matters. Play like millions of fans are counting on you. Take a more business-like mindset to work each day. Your teammates don't want to just see you "act" the "part" with sideline speeches, they want your daily actions to speak louder than your words on game day. A fire hose can be very effective and powerful, but held 2 feet below the nozzle it is erratic and dangerous. Up to now, he has been like that fire hose being held a few feet below the nozzle too much of the time. We need the next version, Ben 4.0. Become one of the hardest workers on the team. Do not think you are above the rules that others follow. Do not think you get _overly_ special treatment (He does get _some_ special treatment as the QB with two rings, let's not kid ourselves.)

    It's time for 4.0: Practice and play like your life depends on it. You don't have all that much time left to win another ring or two. Last season proved that.
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    Ben 3.0 needs an improved offensive line so he can become Ben 4.0 and maybe Ben 5.0. Until we fix the OL don't expect more consistent offensive performance. Brady is great because he is never under pressure (and he ball for a long time at times too) and same for Manning.

    As long as we keep fooling ourselves that we can "patch together" a OL we will see nothing from this offense close to what they are capable of. We will just be teased by glimpses of how good they can be.
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    There is no reason to believe Gilbert-????-Pouncey-DeCastro-Adams will not become a very good to great offensive line. An average age of 23 on that list. The biggest thing...Chemistry. How many snaps has that group had together? Of course...They also need to stay healthy. I know many of you are impatient and want everything to work out of the wrapper but trust me...If they play together they will grow together. Stability is the key to that process and it appears at least 4 of the 5 pieces are in place with Beachum possibly being the other. The Steelers would really benefit if they could find a way to hold on to Foster at a bargain if they release Colon but I'm not to sure if that is possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    Ben 3.0 needs an improved offensive line so he can become Ben 4.0 and maybe Ben 5.0. Until we fix the OL don't expect more consistent offensive performance. Brady is great because he is never under pressure (and he ball for a long time at times too) and same for Manning.

    As long as we keep fooling ourselves that we can "patch together" a OL we will see nothing from this offense close to what they are capable of. We will just be teased by glimpses of how good they can be.
    This is total bunk... Brady gets pressured but he deals with it by throwing in the flat or changing the blocking or the play before the snap. We rarely do it and when we do change the play it tends to be a run up the middle.

    If Ben respected the pressure like he did early on in the year our OL would look better. We also have to keep the human injury machine off the field. Gilbert is an accident waiting to happen and he screw up the chemistry because he gets hurt every game.

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    Whats the over-under for how many threads lloydroid starts about Ben this off-season?


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    I don't buy the premise. That's all I've got to say about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    This is total bunk... Brady gets pressured but he deals with it by throwing in the flat or changing the blocking or the play before the snap. We rarely do it and when we do change the play it tends to be a run up the middle.

    If Ben respected the pressure like he did early on in the year our OL would look better. We also have to keep the human injury machine off the field. Gilbert is an accident waiting to happen and he screw up the chemistry because he gets hurt every game.
    Thank you Felt. Ben makes the OL look worse by how he plays. Brady and Manning, on occasion will stand back there for a bit, but they also know when to get rid of the ball, in a crisp, accurate, quick manner.

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