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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    Ivory looks like a good player- but don't the Steelers already have 2 Chris Ivory's on the roster in Dwyer & Redman?

    They play to similarly for Chadman.

    We need a Sproles more than an Ivory. There is no Steeler RB that can beat the defense to the edge with speed. The Steelers lack speed, particularly when you take Rainey, Mendenhall & wallace off the roster.

    They can do 3 yard runs already. We need someone that can spring a 50+ yard run.
    I was thinking the same thing. Ivory seems like the same type of player as Redman. We need a more dynamic athlete at that position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    Ivory looks like a good player- but don't the Steelers already have 2 Chris Ivory's on the roster in Dwyer & Redman?

    They play to similarly for Chadman.

    We need a Sproles more than an Ivory. There is no Steeler RB that can beat the defense to the edge with speed. The Steelers lack speed, particularly when you take Rainey, Mendenhall & wallace off the roster.

    They can do 3 yard runs already. We need someone that can spring a 50+ yard run.
    I disagree. Take a look at this. Ivory has never average less than 4.7 yards per carry. As you can see by his stats, he has broken 50 yard runs before and has proven he can stay in condition.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...400/index.html

    Compare this to Dwyer: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...164/index.html (Dwyer has one run of 76 in 2011, but this is the first year he got over 20 carries. He can't condition himself properly)

    And to Redman: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...9674/index.htm (His longest run is 28 yards).

    Add all this up and Ivory is an upgrade over Redman and Dwyer. Dude runs hard and he would likely be a pretty cheap FA acquisition. I also believe that the Saints have a salary cap issue this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRob View Post
    I disagree. Take a look at this. Ivory has never average less than 4.7 yards per carry. As you can see by his stats, he has broken 50 yard runs before and has proven he can stay in condition.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...400/index.html

    Compare this to Dwyer: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...164/index.html (Dwyer has one run of 76 in 2011, but this is the first year he got over 20 carries. He can't condition himself properly)

    And to Redman: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...9674/index.htm (His longest run is 28 yards).

    Add all this up and Ivory is an upgrade over Redman and Dwyer. Dude runs hard and he would likely be a pretty cheap FA acquisition. I also believe that the Saints have a salary cap issue this year.
    Well, yeah... but the Saints Offense is wide open, not even close to resembling a run-up-the-middle staple of running plays. Ivory is still a between the tackles pounder- which is pretty much what Redman & Dwyer are.

    Redman's greatest 'big plays' have come from spread formations.

    Ivory might well be a better RB than both Redman & Dwyer, but if you already have the between the tackles RB on the roster, or in this case, 2 of them...why add a 3rd?

    That RB from the Florida Gators- Mike Gillislee- now THAT is the type of RB that the Steelers could use- equally effective between & outside the tackles, excellent pass catcher & pass blocker..would instantly be the 3rd down RB in Chadman's opinion.

    Steelers could pick him up around the 3rd according to most 'mock draft' websites.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLKExSPzw2I

    Here's a bit of what ya need.

    By the way- anyone know who #73 for the Gators is? The LT? That dude can block.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post

    Ivory might well be a better RB than both Redman & Dwyer, but if you already have the between the tackles RB on the roster, or in this case, 2 of them...why add a 3rd?

    That RB from the Florida Gators- Mike Gillislee- now THAT is the type of RB that the Steelers could use- equally effective between & outside the tackles, excellent pass catcher & pass blocker..would instantly be the 3rd down RB in Chadman's opinion.

    Steelers could pick him up around the 3rd according to most 'mock draft' websites.
    Who says Redman and Dwyer are going to be on the team? I would replace both of them with Ivory in a heart beat. Pick-up Gillislee, whom I like a lot as well, and you have a very good veteran to go with a potentially exciting rookie. BAM! Done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRob View Post
    Who says Redman and Dwyer are going to be on the team? I would replace both of them with Ivory in a heart beat. Pick-up Gillislee, whom I like a lot as well, and you have a very good veteran to go with a potentially exciting rookie. BAM! Done.
    Well, if the Steelers go that route, fair enough. Doubt they'll remove both Dwyer & Redman from the ranks, but if they did- then sign Ivory up right away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    Well, if the Steelers go that route, fair enough. Doubt they'll remove both Dwyer & Redman from the ranks, but if they did- then sign Ivory up right away.
    I think they will tender Redman and let Dwyer and Mendy go. Ivory is a better version of Redman.
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    Ivory is better than a healthy Mendenhall, a conditioned Dwyer and a healthy Redman.

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    Big changes afoot for Steelers?

    January 16th, 2013
    By Dejan Kovacevic

    Just met with Kevin Colbert, the Steelers’ GM, at the team headquarters on the South Side, along with a handful of other reporters.

    Our Alan Robinson has full news coverage, so I’ll just share a few thoughts here …

    >> Maybe you had to be in that office, but I didn’t get the sense Colbert was set on status quo heading into this offseason. Far from it, actually.

    He’s not the type to divulge details, to put it mildly, but the way he answered a few of the various questions — repeated references to the “61 players we have” not being good enough, quick references to “terminations,” being open to using money from terminations to even (gasp) look at free agency — let’s just say he sounded like he was setting the stage for significant change.

    Could be wrong. Just sharing.

    >> I asked Colbert about LaMarr Woodley, and he pointed, as others have on the record, to Woodley’s “results” rather than his conditioning.

    “I believe the effort was there,” Colbert said.

    I also asked if Woodley should or could get lighter, and Colbert responded that he’s “always been a big guy.” So that didn’t get much further.

    Colbert also told me, “I’ll bet if you ask LaMarr, he’d be the first to tell you he was disappointed with how his season went.”

    Uh, tried that. Didn’t exactly work.

    >> Goodbye, Rashard Mendenhall.

    Forever.

    Let there be no doubt on that one. He burned every bridge there was to burn by not showing up for work that one Sunday.

    >> It won’t be goodbye for the rest of the running backs, but I’d rent rather than buy if I’m Jonathan Dwyer and/or Isaac Redman. Colbert tried as hard as he could to steer specific questions into generalities, but he left no doubt who was mostly to blame for the 26th-ranked rushing offense.

    “It was indicative of the talent at the position,” Colbert said.

    Ouch.

    >> I’ve got a slightly different feeling for the disciplinary handlings of Chris Rainey and Alameda Ta’amu than when I walked into that room, but not by much. If Rainey’s act was significant enough to “break the trust,” as Colbert put it, so was Ta’amu’s.

    There were repeated references, actually, to “trust” as it relates to Rainey. I’m only guessing here, but if being honest or forthcoming is the tiebreaker here, sorry, but that’s not enough to excuse Ta’amu’s terribly reckless actions.

    >> An actual quarterback as a draft pick?

    Wow, can’t even picture it. But it’s probably well past time. Ben Roethlisberger will be 31 in two months. Charlie Batch will be 91. Can’t just have a couple of guys holding a clipboard anymore.

    >> My thanks to Colbert and the Steelers for the session. It was as candid and forthcoming as is reasonable under the circumstances of running a team, and it was as honest as I’ve come to expect from this team.

    I’m tempted to go through my tape and count up how many times Colbert spat out the term “8-8″ in this 34-minute session. Had to be close to 50. No kidding.

    These guys get sickened by losing.

    http://blog.triblive.com/dejan-kovac...-for-steelers/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLKExSPzw2I

    Here's a bit of what ya need.

    By the way- anyone know who #73 for the Gators is? The LT? That dude can block.
    i think they said NIXON, in the clip.. hell yeah.. he was throwing dudes around.. i like him too.
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