Doom and Gloom...its at it's highest!

[Dee Dub]

I dont think I can ever remember a Steeler off season where as many fans as there are now who are so down on this football team. If you didn't know any better you'd think we were the Cleveland Browns.

And no one seems to be immune from the abuse. I dont get it. I for one will not be swayed by this. I know this team is just a few pieces away from returning to glory. And sometimes that appears in the form of luck. It could be something the organization doesn't even do. A player could fall to them that could be a star.

I also know this team lost 5 games by 3 points or less. A little tweak here and a little more there and the Pittsburgh Steelers are right back at the top of the mountain.

I for one can't wait till Ben Roethlisberger leads the Steelers to #7. I believe it is sooner than many of our fans think. But if you need to be so down on the Steelers to make yourself feel better, then knock yourself out. I think it would be much more effective to get some counseling for that, but what do I know? I still believe in the Steelers. There must be something wrong with me I guess.

[Slapstick]

I dont think I can ever remember a Steeler off season where as many fans as there are now who are so down on this football team. If you didn't know any better you'd think we were the Cleveland Browns.

And no one seems to be immune from the abuse. I dont get it. I for one will not be swayed by this. I know this team is just a few pieces away from returning to glory. And sometimes that appears in the form of luck. It could be something the organization doesn't even do. A player could fall to them that could be a star.

I also know this team lost 5 games by 3 points or less. A little tweak here and a little more there and the Pittsburgh Steelers are right back at the top of the mountain.

I for one can't wait till Ben Roethlisberger leads the Steelers to #7. I believe it is sooner than many of our fans think. But if you need to be so down on the Steelers to make yourself feel better, then knock yourself out. I think it would be much more effective to get some counseling for that, but what do I know? I still believe in the Steelers. There must be something wrong with me I guess.

A lot of people on the board are confusing "pessimism" with "realism"...they are very different things...

Missing the playoffs causes many to lose perspective...

[DBR96A]

A lot of people on the board are confusing "pessimism" with "realism"...they are very different things...

Missing the playoffs causes many to lose perspective...

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[feltdizz]

I agree but there is nothing wrong with questioning how a team went from 6-2 to 8-8 and losing a few must win games against bad competition. We lost 5 games by 3 points or less.... and that's the problem. It's always by the skin of our teeth or almost with this team. It would be nice to need a win and watch our team go out and put in a solid performance instead of looking like they are hung over from a night of partying.


Here is where I think you differ from most fans on here... most fans aren't thinking about the draft right after the opening kick off to a season. I think its easier for you to get over it because the draft is what you love... so an 8-8 season is gravy because we get to pick higher and you get to talk mock much earlier than usual. Most fans love making the playoffs... you love making mock drafts.

Just my since you think something is wrong with you

[Dee Dub]

I agree but there is nothing wrong with questioning how a team went from 6-2 to 8-8 and losing a few must win games against bad competition.

I agree with that and you have known me to do that myself. But I am not talking about that. It's the constant bashing of certain players and coaches over and over and over. It is out of hand. There's a difference.

Here is where I think you differ from most fans on here... most fans aren't thinking about the draft right after the opening kick off to a season. I think its easier for you to get over it because the draft is what you love... so an 8-8 season is gravy because we get to pick higher and you get to talk mock much earlier than usual. Most fans love making the playoffs... you love making mock drafts.

Just my since you think something is wrong with you

This idea you have of me couldn't be farther from the truth. I love the draft because I love college football And I link them both together for my first love ..the Pittsburgh Steelers. If you think I would rather make a mock draft over the Steelers making the playoffs then you aren't a very observant person or you just don't know how to really read someone. And it is not easy for me to get over a season like the past. I saw this coming. If you read some of my posts early in the season I didnt think this was a team that would be great. But as I said then I think they are close. And all they need to so is a few tweaks here and there. Nothing drastic. I bleed Black and Gold so it affects me as much as it affects you.

[papillon]

I dont think I can ever remember a Steeler off season where as many fans as there are now who are so down on this football team. If you didn't know any better you'd think we were the Cleveland Browns.

And no one seems to be immune from the abuse. I dont get it. I for one will not be swayed by this. I know this team is just a few pieces away from returning to glory. And sometimes that appears in the form of luck. It could be something the organization doesn't even do. A player could fall to them that could be a star.

I also know this team lost 5 games by 3 points or less. A little tweak here and a little more there and the Pittsburgh Steelers are right back at the top of the mountain.

I for one can't wait till Ben Roethlisberger leads the Steelers to #7. I believe it is sooner than many of our fans think. But if you need to be so down on the Steelers to make yourself feel better, then knock yourself out. I think it would be much more effective to get some counseling for that, but what do I know? I still believe in the Steelers. There must be something wrong with me I guess.

Only a few have lost all perspective of the season and they may be new to SteelerNation, because if they have been around for any length of time they would realize that the Steelers do not panic, they do evaluate what happened and will have a plan for the draft and will be ready to compete come August. The necessary changes will have been made and they will move on. As a fan of this team for a very long time even during the dark ages (1980s) the Steelers didn't make rash judgments and unsound decisions and they won't this year either. There is a lot of football and football business knowledge in the front office of the Steelers. The Steelers will compete next year and hopefully, have a better outcome than this past year, but even if they don't they won't hit the panic button and turn themselves into the Browns, Dolphins, Jets, Titans, etc.

Pappy

[feltdizz]

Nah Pap... Fire Tomlin, Fire DL.... definitely fire the ST's coach (I mean that) and trade Ben.

[supersteeler]

I don't think its doom and gloom, Steelers fans are just questioning things that occured this season. They are trying to figure out how the Steelers organization is going to answer all the issues.
Personally, I love this team even with their 8-8 record. I'm looking forward to the draft and hope we find players that can help us, plus some gems that other teams missed.

I also deal in reality and take the homer shirt off. We all want our team to succeed even the most critical fan does, but like Ryan Clark stated we fans are spoiled because of the sustained success this team had over the years. I think we have a core of good players and as mentioned plug in some players through the draft and the team will rebound and I have faith they will.

When I say rebound, I mean we will be competitive and we won't be the Titans Browns or other perennial losers and we might even make the playoffs next season. The front office usually makes good decisions and don't take a knee jerk approach when seasons like this happen but at the same time they have a lot to deal with this off season.
What I'm trying to convey here is too much uncertainty to think we will be a Super Bowl contender next season, if you think they will then I admire you for your optimism.
When this season started, I thought we would have a great shot of contending, circumstances happened that derailed that thought and we seen the results.
Looking ahead I think we'll be ok and be a better team, but sorry, IMHO not Super Bowl bound, too many issues to get resolved to get back to being a championship team. My position doesn't make me any less of a fan than anyone here, I think I'm being reasonable in my expectations, if you think otherwise thats ok.
We are here to discuss our Steelers and there are differences of opinions, my hope is we get back on track to be that SB contender but I just don't see it for 2013.

[feltdizz]

Not questioning your passion for the Steelers Dub... I just think your passion is watching players who can help our team next year vs what we are doing this year.

"would you rather make the playoffs/lose the last game or lose and get a higher draft pick?"

I don;t know who posted it but IMO when people look towards the draft early and often it's usually easier for them to get over the season. I predicted 10-6..expected the playoffs. Hell, even if I fell on my head and predicted 6-10 I would still be furious if we were 6-2 or 6-3 and ended up 8-8.

But that's just me and my opinion.. maybe I'm wrong.

[lloydroid]

Not questioning your passion for the Steelers Dub... I just think your passion is watching players who can help our team next year vs what we are doing this year.

"would you rather make the playoffs/lose the last game or lose and get a higher draft pick?"

I don;t know who posted it but IMO when people look towards the draft early and often it's usually easier for them to get over the season. I predicted 10-6..expected the playoffs. Hell, even if I fell on my head and predicted 6-10 I would still be furious if we were 6-2 or 6-3 and ended up 8-8.

But that's just me and my opinion.. maybe I'm wrong.

No, you're not wrong. Going from 6-2 to 8-8 is totally unacceptable. And the lack of team discipline was pathetic. Tomlin was a disgrace this season. But if he looks "cool" wearing his sunglasses and twirling his whistle, we are supposed to overlook the lack of team discipline. After all, he looks cool in his sunglasses.