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    Quote Originally Posted by NW Steeler View Post
    Hopefully the relationship between Haley and Ben evolves this offseason. These guys are stuck with each other and they need to be on the same page. AS true professionals that WANT to win, how can they not?
    What Ben needs to do is be honest with himself and look at the tape...

    Look at how you were doing and what you were doing before the injury...then, look at how you did and what you did after the injury...

    Haley needs to do the same damn thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    What Ben needs to do is be honest with himself and look at the tape...

    Look at how you were doing and what you were doing before the injury...then, look at how you did and what you did after the injury...

    Haley needs to do the same damn thing...
    I have no reason to doubt that Haley will look at tape. With Ben's stated aversion to looking at tape, I wonder if he's putting in the necessary mental preparation this offseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar View Post
    Ben will be fine and the Offense will be better because of the stability, especially as guys get healthy. If Ben has ever whined about Haley in public, I missed it. And no, some crack about the playcalling is not even remotely whining. It's a healthy work environment.
    Agreed. It is laughable the way people go through every transcript of every interview to find any little tidbit of potential meaning on something that was said and can somehow be construed as controversial.

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    Give Ben the O-line like the so called other Elite QB's AND a back that can carry the rock without a blow and you will see a difference.

    Any OC system requires a good O-line to work no matter who is the coach, when things were going well the Line seemed to block better and Ben was better as a result. Then the injuries to the line and Ben hurt them, plus you add injured backs and it spells trouble.
    If we don't get good production from our O-line then we have issues, but we have to wait and see them play healthy as a group before we write them off.

    Hey folks, I hate to say this but our Steelers will probably be more competitive next season and win a few more games. However, if you are dealing in reality we have too many issues to get resolved to be a championship team, no one draft will fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supersteeler View Post
    Give Ben the O-line like the so called other Elite QB's AND a back that can carry the rock without a blow and you will see a difference.

    Any OC system requires a good O-line to work no matter who is the coach, when things were going well the Line seemed to block better and Ben was better as a result. Then the injuries to the line and Ben hurt them, plus you add injured backs and it spells trouble.
    If we don't get good production from our O-line then we have issues, but we have to wait and see them play healthy as a group before we write them off.

    Hey folks, I hate to say this but our Steelers will probably be more competitive next season and win a few more games. However, if you are dealing in reality we have too many issues to get resolved to be a championship team, no one draft will fix it.
    This might be true... but I also think these other "elite QB's" and "elite RB's" make OL's look good. I see other RB's get hit and they don't go down... they run through guys. Redman and Dwyer kinda do this but they are slow so it doesn't have the same effect

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    Stevie Wonder can see our OL sucks... it's not news people... if we can see it then the coaches damn sure see it and aren't doing enough to fix it. It's not a valid excuse.
    I think the "we aren't doing enough to fix the OL" excuse is officially played out. In the last 3 drafts, we used 4 out of the 6 "premium" picks in the 1st or 2nd round on o-linemen. A first round center, a first round guard, and two second round tackles. Plus, after using these premium picks on the OL, we also attempted to solidify our OL depth with another 7th round OL pick in 2012, another 6th round OL pick in 2011, another 5th round OL pick in 2010, and also 3rd & 7th round OL picks in 2009, a 4th round OL pick in 2008, etc., etc., etc. We are not ignoring the OL...far from it. With Kugler now at UTEP, we need to find an OL coach that can turn these guys into the players that we thought we drafted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supersteeler View Post
    Hey folks, I hate to say this but our Steelers will probably be more competitive next season and win a few more games. However, if you are dealing in reality we have too many issues to get resolved to be a championship team, no one draft will fix it.
    I disagree with this. A healthy Steelers team is better than the Ravens team playing in the AFC Championship this weekend. IMO, drastic changes aren't needed. Get healthy and continue to make the additions needed via the draft and a couple solid free agents. In other words, what they usually do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar View Post
    I disagree with this. A healthy Steelers team is better than the Ravens team playing in the AFC Championship this weekend. IMO, drastic changes aren't needed. Get healthy and continue to make the additions needed via the draft and a couple solid free agents. In other words, what they usually do.
    I don't think we are that far off either but we are seriously lacking in a few areas.

    I would add kicker to the list. Mark my words, we will NEVER win a Super Bowl with Suisham as a kicker. So, every year that we go into the season with him as our kicker, I am willing to guarantee that we won't win a SB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelz09 View Post
    I don't think we are that far off either but we are seriously lacking in a few areas.

    I would add kicker to the list. Mark my words, we will NEVER win a Super Bowl with Suisham as a kicker. So, every year that we go into the season with him as our kicker, I am willing to guarantee that we won't win a SB.
    I'm not seeing Sushi as a problem. He did a good job this year. Do you have some reason to think he'll regress? I'm curious because of all the Steelers "issues", kicker seems to be one of the least problematic to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    I think the "we aren't doing enough to fix the OL" excuse is officially played out. In the last 3 drafts, we used 4 out of the 6 "premium" picks in the 1st or 2nd round on o-linemen. A first round center, a first round guard, and two second round tackles. Plus, after using these premium picks on the OL, we also attempted to solidify our OL depth with another 7th round OL pick in 2012, another 6th round OL pick in 2011, another 5th round OL pick in 2010, and also 3rd & 7th round OL picks in 2009, a 4th round OL pick in 2008, etc., etc., etc. We are not ignoring the OL...far from it. With Kugler now at UTEP, we need to find an OL coach that can turn these guys into the players that we thought we drafted.
    I don't give a rats azz how many picks we have 'used' on the OL. I look at the players themselves. I see Gilbert who missed half the season, DeCastro that missed most the season, Adams that missed 1/4 of the season, Pouncey that has missed parts of every season, and I say keep drafting them cause these guys aren't reliable. I'm also all for competition for the starting job and have no problem taking an Eric Fisher to push Gilbert and Adams. I have no issue taking a Chance Warmack to push DeCastro and Belchum or Foster. I wouldn't even have a problem trading down and taking that OC from Alabama (can't recall his name at the moment) to push all of them including Pouncey.

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