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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Pittsburgh View Post
    How many timing patterns where Brady drops back and throws to a spot do you see Brady throw a game? 20? You see Ben throw zero unless it is a stay pattern. You telling me Wallace couldn't run 10 yds down field with a CB giving a 10 yd cushion and starting to backpedal at the snap and turn on a dime only to find a Big Ben rifled pass waiting for him?

    Why don't we run more timing patterns? Ben? WR's? Stupid OC's? Directives from the front office?
    Exactly!!!! Our problems start with Coaching and Discipline which, the pats have down to a science.... please Steelers watch and learn....

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    The Pats throw their players out there and see if they can swim.....

    We put our players over in the kiddie pool with the floaters on their arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    The Pats throw their players out there and see if they can swim.....

    We put our players over in the kiddie pool with the floaters on their arms.
    Only on defense. Roethlisberger got thrown into the pool. Granted, there were unusual circumstances, but thrown in the pool he certainly was.
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    Bens turkey bowl or backyard football served him well with three SB appearances, Brees, P. Manning,Rogers, all considered better than Ben by the media have one stinking ring.

    Ben won't wow anyone with stats, or how he plays the game, but he has the hardware (rings) saying his brand of football might not be pleasing to fans but his goal is winning Super Bowls.

    Btw, He is without a doubt the toughest QB out there, if all these other QB's played with the lines Ben had they wouldn't of lasted.

    I get what your saying Mr. Pittsburgh and its a valid question but this offense isn't geared for tha ttype of offense neither is Ben.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    The Pats throw their players out there and see if they can swim.....

    We put our players over in the kiddie pool with the floaters on their arms.

    The Pats also limit the roles of these players to do what they do well...

    They don't worry about a "workhorse, bread-and-butter" RB...the put the guys they hav in situations to succeed...

    They do the same on defense as well...always have since Belichick became coach...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBR96A View Post
    Only on defense. Roethlisberger got thrown into the pool. Granted, there were unusual circumstances, but thrown in the pool he certainly was.
    I'm not talking about circumstances where you are forced to play a guy...

    The Pats throw guys in on day one and see what they can do and if they can't handle the pressure they cut them or send them on their way the next year and replace them and do it all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    The Pats also limit the roles of these players to do what they do well...

    They don't worry about a "workhorse, bread-and-butter" RB...the put the guys they hav in situations to succeed...

    They do the same on defense as well...always have since Belichick became coach...
    a guy like Worlids wouldn't sit on the sidelines... he would be on the field rushing the QB on situational downs from day 1. Lewis, Brown, Allen would already be on the field or kicked off the field by year 2.

    On offense... Rainey and Batch would have been in space on day 1 abusing LB's and nickels instead of running between the tackles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    a guy like Worlids wouldn't sit on the sidelines... he would be on the field rushing the QB on situational downs from day 1. Lewis, Brown, Allen would already be on the field or kicked off the field by year 2.

    On offense... Rainey and Batch would have been in space on day 1 abusing LB's and nickels instead of running between the tackles.
    I agree...

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    a guy like Worlids wouldn't sit on the sidelines... he would be on the field rushing the QB on situational downs from day 1. Lewis, Brown, Allen would already be on the field or kicked off the field by year 2.

    On offense... Rainey and Batch would have been in space on day 1 abusing LB's and nickels instead of running between the tackles.
    Rainey and Batch aren't nearly as talented as the Pats* running backs. Rainey was put in some situations to see if he could break a play, but he was never able to separate from defenders and went down at first contact. He's no Woodhead.

    The Pats* do use situational players better than the Steelers do, and better than the rest of the league.

    Everybody talks about playing rookies like it is great, but sometimes rookies need development time. Would you have trotted Adams out there on day one, or played Starks/Gilbert, a solid vet and the Steelers ROY? DeCastro was going to start before his injury. Spence likely would have seen the field before year's end.

    With the Pats*, for all their accolades, they've missed on a lot of high picks. They get a lot out of guys like Ninkovich, but have had a lot of high picks that are complete busts.

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    Even with all the injuries we had this year we still have a championship caliber defense. It's the OFFENSE that needs to open up (have some diversity) like no-huddle more often. Even though Denver lost, you see Peyton in the no huddle with the play clock down to less than 5 seconds before they snap the ball. Ben is far more creative in that type of offense. The only problem is you can't have injuries to the line because they more than ever have to be in sync. IMO skill position players are easier to replace than linemen so load up on your linemen with multiple skillsets.

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