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    Why Can't the Steelers............

    Why Can't the Steelers develop and plug in players like the Patriots do???

    Seems like no matter who the Pats put on the field they can still win.
    Doesn't matter how many times they've been cut, where they were drafted......they just win.

    Rob Nincovich??? Drated in the 5th, cut by the Saints....goes to Dolphins, then back to Saints. Now he's all over the field with the Patriots!!
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    It all starts up front on both sides of the ball. You see wilfork? He owns the line right now and the o line get a push every play
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    I think a lot has to do with Brady being that much better than Ben with his pre snap reads. Brady attacks every matchup advantage. He does it quickly. And he'll snap the ball in a split second if the D is confused or slow in any way.

    On the flip side, their D yardage rankings suffer. But who cares when you can put that much pressure on another team. Their D is aggressive and fights for turnovers and takes chances.

    It's a whole different philosophy. We'd have to adjust our D as well to do what the Pats do. And we might need a different QB.

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    Because the Pats have Tom Brady.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SidSmythe View Post
    Why Can't the Steelers develop and plug in players like the Patriots do???

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    We used to. We arent hitting on many of our mid-round picks at all in recent years.

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    It's an excellent question- they seem to get excellent production from moderate skill players all the time.

    The answer is probably a combination of the things mentioned in here already- the Patriots put a lot of emphasis on both Lines in the draft. The result is they often dominate on both sides. This allows the lesser skill players more room to do what they can do, without having to worry about blockers, or defenders in the backfield.

    Tom Brady is excellent at the LOS too. His reads of play are out of this world. The result is, that system seems to chug along with ease.

    Their F.O., if you remove the cheating, is one of the best. They identify quality players that fit a system. All the players seem to know their role, the importance of doing their role. It's a well run machine.

    And, as much as it pains Chadman to say it- they are inovators. One step ahead at all times. Which team first spread the Steelers Defense out, taking away the constant pass rush pressure, opening up holes, & gave up on running against us?

    the Patriots.

    Which team made everyone scratch their heads & wonder if there was any kind of plan involved in drafting both Gronkowski & Hernandez in the same draft? Who drafts 2 TE's early? Idiots!

    Oh.... that'd be the Patriots too.

    They are a step ahead, and not only because of sneaky videos.
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    This game against the Texans is a prime example of the chasm that exist between the Steelers and the Patriots and, more specifically, Tomlin and Belichick.

    1) Brady has all day to throw
    2) Patriots don't turn the ball over and play FAST - forcing the opposing defense to adapt
    3) Danny Woodhead goes down, they have a highly serviceable replacement who plays smart and with urgency - the replacement is not a liability
    4) Patriots D - their coverage is tight and they find a way to put pressure on the QB and force him to make poor decisions
    5) Pats in-game adjustments force the Texans to adjust
    6) Guys you never heard of are making plays and having an impact - like Vereen, the aforementioned Ninkovich, and others
    7) Even if their D gives up a lot of yards, they are super tough in the red zone and because their offense is so good, teams know they are going to need to score a lot of points to win, so they take chances they shouldn't and play outside their strengths

    Belichick just gets it. I wish we had 25% of the savvy and smarts the Patriots have. They are ready every week and you have to play your best to beat them. Can't say the same about the Steelers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB13 View Post
    This game against the Texans is a prime example of the chasm that exist between the Steelers and the Patriots and, more specifically, Tomlin and Belichick.

    1) Brady has all day to throw
    2) Patriots don't turn the ball over and play FAST - forcing the opposing defense to adapt
    3) Danny Woodhead goes down, they have a highly serviceable replacement who plays smart and with urgency - the replacement is not a liability
    4) Patriots D - their coverage is tight and they find a way to put pressure on the QB and force him to make poor decisions
    5) Pats in-game adjustments force the Texans to adjust
    6) Guys you never heard of are making plays and having an impact - like Vereen, the aforementioned Ninkovich, and others
    7) Even if their D gives up a lot of yards, they are super tough in the red zone and because their offense is so good, teams know they are going to need to score a lot of points to win, so they take chances they shouldn't and play outside their strengths

    Belichick just gets it. I wish we had 25% of the savvy and smarts the Patriots have. They are ready every week and you have to play your best to beat them. Can't say the same about the Steelers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SidSmythe View Post
    Why Can't the Steelers develop and plug in players like the Patriots do???

    Seems like no matter who the Pats put on the field they can still win.
    Doesn't matter how many times they've been cut, where they were drafted......they just win.

    Rob Nincovich??? Drated in the 5th, cut by the Saints....goes to Dolphins, then back to Saints. Now he's all over the field with the Patriots!!
    There are 31 other teams asking the same question...

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    How many timing patterns where Brady drops back and throws to a spot do you see Brady throw a game? 20? You see Ben throw zero unless it is a stay pattern. You telling me Wallace couldn't run 10 yds down field with a CB giving a 10 yd cushion and starting to backpedal at the snap and turn on a dime only to find a Big Ben rifled pass waiting for him?

    Why don't we run more timing patterns? Ben? WR's? Stupid OC's? Directives from the front office?
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