Page 1 of 5 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 59

Thread: Why Can't the Steelers............

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Hall of Famer SidSmythe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Western NY (south of Rochester, NY)
    Posts
    2,757

    Why Can't the Steelers............

    Why Can't the Steelers develop and plug in players like the Patriots do???

    Seems like no matter who the Pats put on the field they can still win.
    Doesn't matter how many times they've been cut, where they were drafted......they just win.

    Rob Nincovich??? Drated in the 5th, cut by the Saints....goes to Dolphins, then back to Saints. Now he's all over the field with the Patriots!!
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

  2. #2
    Hall of Famer
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Tampa, Florida, United States
    Posts
    3,764
    It all starts up front on both sides of the ball. You see wilfork? He owns the line right now and the o line get a push every play
    http://jeromiandbrittany.blogspot.com/

    Earn Some Bitcoins


    PBMining

    http://www.qoinpro.com/91f8fc96f7dfd461f6483ab3950deccc

    I am paying for my honeymoon using bitcoins.
    1PQsjF9rQqEWF8RfPzczyqCW6ULu1nZ3iu

  3. #3
    Legend
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Inside Your Head
    Posts
    10,460
    I think a lot has to do with Brady being that much better than Ben with his pre snap reads. Brady attacks every matchup advantage. He does it quickly. And he'll snap the ball in a split second if the D is confused or slow in any way.

    On the flip side, their D yardage rankings suffer. But who cares when you can put that much pressure on another team. Their D is aggressive and fights for turnovers and takes chances.

    It's a whole different philosophy. We'd have to adjust our D as well to do what the Pats do. And we might need a different QB.

  4. #4
    Pro Bowler
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    2,236
    Because the Pats have Tom Brady.

  5. #5
    Legend
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, Australia
    Posts
    5,588
    It's an excellent question- they seem to get excellent production from moderate skill players all the time.

    The answer is probably a combination of the things mentioned in here already- the Patriots put a lot of emphasis on both Lines in the draft. The result is they often dominate on both sides. This allows the lesser skill players more room to do what they can do, without having to worry about blockers, or defenders in the backfield.

    Tom Brady is excellent at the LOS too. His reads of play are out of this world. The result is, that system seems to chug along with ease.

    Their F.O., if you remove the cheating, is one of the best. They identify quality players that fit a system. All the players seem to know their role, the importance of doing their role. It's a well run machine.

    And, as much as it pains Chadman to say it- they are inovators. One step ahead at all times. Which team first spread the Steelers Defense out, taking away the constant pass rush pressure, opening up holes, & gave up on running against us?

    the Patriots.

    Which team made everyone scratch their heads & wonder if there was any kind of plan involved in drafting both Gronkowski & Hernandez in the same draft? Who drafts 2 TE's early? Idiots!

    Oh.... that'd be the Patriots too.

    They are a step ahead, and not only because of sneaky videos.
    Schiavone's Race Career:

    Starts- 9
    Wins- 1
    2nd- 4
    3rd- 0
    Other- 4

    Prizemoney- $28,050.00


  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    It's an excellent question- they seem to get excellent production from moderate skill players all the time. The answer is probably a combination of the things mentioned in here already- the Patriots put a lot of emphasis on both Lines in the draft. The result is they often dominate on both sides. This allows the lesser skill players more room to do what they can do, without having to worry about blockers, or defenders in the backfield. Tom Brady is excellent at the LOS too. His reads of play are out of this world. The result is, that system seems to chug along with ease. Their F.O., if you remove the cheating, is one of the best. They identify quality players that fit a system. All the players seem to know their role, the importance of doing their role. It's a well run machine. And, as much as it pains Chadman to say it- they are inovators. One step ahead at all times. Which team first spread the Steelers Defense out, taking away the constant pass rush pressure, opening up holes, & gave up on running against us? the Patriots. Which team made everyone scratch their heads & wonder if there was any kind of plan involved in drafting both Gronkowski & Hernandez in the same draft? Who drafts 2 TE's early? Idiots! Oh.... that'd be the Patriots too. They are a step ahead, and not only because of sneaky videos.
    Sounds to me as though you're saying the Patriots' coaching and F.O. are way better than the Steelers' coaching and F.O..
    Last edited by BradshawsHairdresser; 01-14-2013 at 09:57 AM.

  7. #7
    Legend
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    14,678
    Quote Originally Posted by BradshawsHairdresser View Post
    Sounds to me as though you're saying the Patriots' coaching and F.O. are way better than the Steelers' coaching and F.O..
    how did you come to that conclusion? lol

  8. #8
    Benchwarmer
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    54
    Even with all the injuries we had this year we still have a championship caliber defense. It's the OFFENSE that needs to open up (have some diversity) like no-huddle more often. Even though Denver lost, you see Peyton in the no huddle with the play clock down to less than 5 seconds before they snap the ball. Ben is far more creative in that type of offense. The only problem is you can't have injuries to the line because they more than ever have to be in sync. IMO skill position players are easier to replace than linemen so load up on your linemen with multiple skillsets.

  9. #9
    Legend
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, Australia
    Posts
    5,588
    Quote Originally Posted by BradshawsHairdresser View Post
    Sounds to me as though you're saying the Patriots' coaching and F.O. are way better than the Steelers' coaching and F.O..
    Yes & no. The Steelers have a long history of getting it right. Take away 8-8 this season, and we wouldn't even question if they are on par or close to the Patriots.

    For all the innovation the Pats bring to the game, the Steelers have found ways to continuously tinker with older systems & make them work- so that's innovation in itself. The real differences have been, of late (last 5 years) that the Steelers current coaching group is still 'finding it's feet' in some ways. Tomlin came into the NFL with what was a pretty good team. He learned early not to mess with what he had, just tinker away, and he was very successful doing that. Now he faces a new challenge- creating a new group of core players- and we are about to see over the next year or two if the current coaching group can adjust. The Patriots group aren't new to this. And Bellicheck has had far more failure in his career than Tomlin. But he's obviously learned from his mistakes, and has become a very astute HC. Tomlin is starting to enter the areas of his career that produce new challenges, and potential failures. Maybe 2012's 8-8 is the steepest learning curve he's faced. we'll see by the draft/FA period, and then by how TC is run.

    Success isn't generally about luck. It's about facing hurdles & knowing how to overcome them. The 'knowing' part is the hard part- the bit that causes the most pain- because generally to get to 'knowing' the right way- you have to learn it from doing it the wrong way.

    Here's betting 2013 isn't 8-8.
    Schiavone's Race Career:

    Starts- 9
    Wins- 1
    2nd- 4
    3rd- 0
    Other- 4

    Prizemoney- $28,050.00


  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    Yes & no. The Steelers have a long history of getting it right...

    Success isn't generally about luck. It's about facing hurdles & knowing how to overcome them. The 'knowing' part is the hard part- the bit that causes the most pain- because generally to get to 'knowing' the right way- you have to learn it from doing it the wrong way.
    Success comes from good decisions.
    Good decisions come from experience.
    Experience comes from bad decisions.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •