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    Why Can't the Steelers............

    Why Can't the Steelers develop and plug in players like the Patriots do???

    Seems like no matter who the Pats put on the field they can still win.
    Doesn't matter how many times they've been cut, where they were drafted......they just win.

    Rob Nincovich??? Drated in the 5th, cut by the Saints....goes to Dolphins, then back to Saints. Now he's all over the field with the Patriots!!
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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    It all starts up front on both sides of the ball. You see wilfork? He owns the line right now and the o line get a push every play


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    I think a lot has to do with Brady being that much better than Ben with his pre snap reads. Brady attacks every matchup advantage. He does it quickly. And he'll snap the ball in a split second if the D is confused or slow in any way.

    On the flip side, their D yardage rankings suffer. But who cares when you can put that much pressure on another team. Their D is aggressive and fights for turnovers and takes chances.

    It's a whole different philosophy. We'd have to adjust our D as well to do what the Pats do. And we might need a different QB.

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    Because the Pats have Tom Brady.

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    It's an excellent question- they seem to get excellent production from moderate skill players all the time.

    The answer is probably a combination of the things mentioned in here already- the Patriots put a lot of emphasis on both Lines in the draft. The result is they often dominate on both sides. This allows the lesser skill players more room to do what they can do, without having to worry about blockers, or defenders in the backfield.

    Tom Brady is excellent at the LOS too. His reads of play are out of this world. The result is, that system seems to chug along with ease.

    Their F.O., if you remove the cheating, is one of the best. They identify quality players that fit a system. All the players seem to know their role, the importance of doing their role. It's a well run machine.

    And, as much as it pains Chadman to say it- they are inovators. One step ahead at all times. Which team first spread the Steelers Defense out, taking away the constant pass rush pressure, opening up holes, & gave up on running against us?

    the Patriots.

    Which team made everyone scratch their heads & wonder if there was any kind of plan involved in drafting both Gronkowski & Hernandez in the same draft? Who drafts 2 TE's early? Idiots!

    Oh.... that'd be the Patriots too.

    They are a step ahead, and not only because of sneaky videos.
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    2024 Draft
    1. Nate Wiggins CB
    2. Ricky Pearsall WR
    3. Blake Fisher OT
    3. Mason McCormick OC
    4. Cedric Gray ILB
    6. Jaden Crumedy DT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    It's an excellent question- they seem to get excellent production from moderate skill players all the time. The answer is probably a combination of the things mentioned in here already- the Patriots put a lot of emphasis on both Lines in the draft. The result is they often dominate on both sides. This allows the lesser skill players more room to do what they can do, without having to worry about blockers, or defenders in the backfield. Tom Brady is excellent at the LOS too. His reads of play are out of this world. The result is, that system seems to chug along with ease. Their F.O., if you remove the cheating, is one of the best. They identify quality players that fit a system. All the players seem to know their role, the importance of doing their role. It's a well run machine. And, as much as it pains Chadman to say it- they are inovators. One step ahead at all times. Which team first spread the Steelers Defense out, taking away the constant pass rush pressure, opening up holes, & gave up on running against us? the Patriots. Which team made everyone scratch their heads & wonder if there was any kind of plan involved in drafting both Gronkowski & Hernandez in the same draft? Who drafts 2 TE's early? Idiots! Oh.... that'd be the Patriots too. They are a step ahead, and not only because of sneaky videos.
    Sounds to me as though you're saying the Patriots' coaching and F.O. are way better than the Steelers' coaching and F.O..
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    Quote Originally Posted by BradshawsHairdresser View Post
    Sounds to me as though you're saying the Patriots' coaching and F.O. are way better than the Steelers' coaching and F.O..
    how did you come to that conclusion? lol

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    Even with all the injuries we had this year we still have a championship caliber defense. It's the OFFENSE that needs to open up (have some diversity) like no-huddle more often. Even though Denver lost, you see Peyton in the no huddle with the play clock down to less than 5 seconds before they snap the ball. Ben is far more creative in that type of offense. The only problem is you can't have injuries to the line because they more than ever have to be in sync. IMO skill position players are easier to replace than linemen so load up on your linemen with multiple skillsets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradshawsHairdresser View Post
    Sounds to me as though you're saying the Patriots' coaching and F.O. are way better than the Steelers' coaching and F.O..
    Yes & no. The Steelers have a long history of getting it right. Take away 8-8 this season, and we wouldn't even question if they are on par or close to the Patriots.

    For all the innovation the Pats bring to the game, the Steelers have found ways to continuously tinker with older systems & make them work- so that's innovation in itself. The real differences have been, of late (last 5 years) that the Steelers current coaching group is still 'finding it's feet' in some ways. Tomlin came into the NFL with what was a pretty good team. He learned early not to mess with what he had, just tinker away, and he was very successful doing that. Now he faces a new challenge- creating a new group of core players- and we are about to see over the next year or two if the current coaching group can adjust. The Patriots group aren't new to this. And Bellicheck has had far more failure in his career than Tomlin. But he's obviously learned from his mistakes, and has become a very astute HC. Tomlin is starting to enter the areas of his career that produce new challenges, and potential failures. Maybe 2012's 8-8 is the steepest learning curve he's faced. we'll see by the draft/FA period, and then by how TC is run.

    Success isn't generally about luck. It's about facing hurdles & knowing how to overcome them. The 'knowing' part is the hard part- the bit that causes the most pain- because generally to get to 'knowing' the right way- you have to learn it from doing it the wrong way.

    Here's betting 2013 isn't 8-8.
    The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

    Light up the darkness.

    2024 Draft
    1. Nate Wiggins CB
    2. Ricky Pearsall WR
    3. Blake Fisher OT
    3. Mason McCormick OC
    4. Cedric Gray ILB
    6. Jaden Crumedy DT
    6. Tahj Washington WR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    Yes & no. The Steelers have a long history of getting it right...

    Success isn't generally about luck. It's about facing hurdles & knowing how to overcome them. The 'knowing' part is the hard part- the bit that causes the most pain- because generally to get to 'knowing' the right way- you have to learn it from doing it the wrong way.
    Success comes from good decisions.
    Good decisions come from experience.
    Experience comes from bad decisions.

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