Originally Posted by Crash
Who's loved more? Ben or Batch
You know the answer, we'll see if you're man enough to admit it.
Ben isn't as loved by the locals as he should be, he should be Joe friggin' Namath in that city.
Batch is liked better, but I don't think anybody in Pittsburgh would say that he should start over Ben.
Ben is not particularly likeable - that's a personality issue that has nothing to do with talent or the city.