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    2013 NFL Combine: Weigh-In Recap - Wide Receivers

    Clemson wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins (6-1, 214) had a quality weigh-in. He was as tall as listed and 14 pounds heavier. He had some of the largest hands (10 inches) of any of the receivers. It was good for Hopkins to show he has some size and isn't one of the players who is billed to be much larger than reality.

    The team interviews will be the most important aspect of the combine for Tennessee Tech's Da'Rick Rogers. He had to leave Tennessee after off-the-field problems including a positive drug test. Rogers was a 1,000-yard receiver as a sophomore for the Volunteers and showed off a special skill set with size, speed and physicality. Rogers (6-2, 217) illustrated his good size at the weigh in. He should run well, and if he convinces teams he'll stay out of trouble, he could improve his draft standing.

    Virginia Tech wide receiver Marcus Davis (6-3, 233) was the heaviest receiver at the Combine. Davis had the second largest hands of any receiver at 10 1/4 inches. Davis could help himself by running well, but he probably should try and slim down for the NFL. If Davis gets to 220, that could make him faster and more athletic.

    USC wide receiver Robert Woods had a mixed weigh-in. On the plus side he checked in at 201 pounds, 20 pounds heavier than his listed weight. The downside was Woods measuring an inch shorter than listed at an even 6-foot. Even more importantly than those measurements, Woods must prove that his nagging ankle injury is behind him. His medical check is very important along with his ability to run fast in the field work. Woods really needs a good Combine to help his draft stock after a disappointing junior season.


    Arkansas' Cobi Hamilton (6-2, 212) and Baylor's Terrance Williams (6-2, 20 have quality combinations of height and weight, but both players have some of the smallest hands of the receivers at the combine. Each prospect's had hands that measured 8 3/4 inches. Those are small hands for a NFL receiver. Both receivers had less-than-stellar weeks at the Senior Bowl, so they need to perform well in the field work and especially in the 40-yard dash.

    Rutgers wide receiver Mark Harrison had the longest arms (35 inches) and the longest arms of any receiver at the combine. Harrison (6-3, 231) is a big receiver with height and strength. It might help him to drop some weight to get quicker in the NFL.
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    2013 NFL Combine: Weigh-In Recap - Running Backs

    Alabama's Eddie Lacy is the consensus top running back in the draft and had a weigh-in that met expectations. The power back checked in at 5-foot-11 and 231 pounds. He also had good sized hands with a measurement of 9.5 inches. Lacy was listed an inch taller and 11 pounds lighter, so he is basically as advertised. Many believe that Lacy is the only running back that will be selected in the first round.

    It was a mixed weigh-in for Oklahoma State running back Joseph Randle. On the down side he had small hands (8 3/4 inches), but on the plus side he was 6-foot and 204-pounds. The early entry has the frame to add weight for the NFL after spending some time in a strength and conditioning program. If Randle adds 15 pounds that could help him to stay healthy and handle a larger workload. The 2013 running back class has a plethora of running backs who are in the 190-200 pound range, but most of them are around 5-foot-10 and won't be able to add much more weight. Randle has some physical upside.

    Rutgers running back Jawan Jamison (5-7, 203) had a disappointing weigh-in. He had extremely small hands that measured 8 3/8 inches. That was tied for the smallest hands of any of the running backs. Hands that size could lead to Jamison having fumbling issues in the NFL. He was a workhorse back at Rutgers, but in the NFL, Jamison doesn't have the size for that large a workload. It would probably be best if Jamison is a situational back.

    For a small speed back, Oregon's Kenjon Barner is put together well at 5-foot-9 and 196-pounds. Those solid numbers help Barner to be viewed as having the ability to take on the work load of a rotational running back. It wouldn't be surprising if Barner has one of the fastest 40-yard times at the Combine. He could stand out in the field receiving drills as well. Barner looks poised to have a combine performance that could boost his draft stock.

    Michigan State running back Le'Veon Bell was listed at 6-foot-2, 238-pounds. His actual measurements were slightly smaller (6-1, 230). Bell is a big power back and the concern with him is if he has enough speed for the NFL. His shuttle and 40 times are going to be very important for him to go on the second day of the draft.

    Another tight end who was lighter than expected, but in a good way, was Michigan State's Dion Sims (6-4, 262). The Spartans had him at 285 pounds. Sims is a good blocker with receiving ability and that lighter weight should help his capacity to contribute to the passing attack. He could turn out to be one of the tight ends who helps himself the most if he runs a fast 40-yard dash and looks fluid in the field work.

    Arkansas running back Knile Davis has had a couple of broken ankles over the past few seasons, so his medical exam will be inspected thoroughly by NFL teams. Davis (5-10, 227) looked like a potential starting running back in the NFL back in 2010. In 2011, he missed the season because of an ankle and last year he didn't play well for the Razorbacks. Davis also checked in with small hands (8 5/8 inches). Davis needs to perform well at the combine with a thumbs up from the medical evaluation to ensure he gets drafted.

    A running back who passed the eyeball test was LSU's Spencer Ware. At 5-foot-10, 228-pounds Ware has serious bulk to handle the pounding of the NFL. He also had a good hand size (9 5/8 inches). With the Tigers, Ware was part of a running-back-by-committee approach. That hurt his production and opportunities, but he enters the NFL with fresh legs. Ware could be a sleeper running back that surprises in the NFL.

    After Lacy, the consensus second-rated running back is North Carolina's Giovani Bernard. The speedy scat back was a little bit smaller than expected. The 5-foot-8, 203-pounder was at the expected weight but a couple inches shorter. Bernard should excel in the 40-yard dash and the field work. He is very quick and athletic. If Bernard blows up the Combine, he could get some teams to consider him late in the first-round.

    Obviously, teams will want to pour over the medical evaluation on South Carolina running back Marcus Lattimore, but he weighed in at 5-foot-11 and 221-pounds. He showed that while he is rehabbing his injured knee he has been able to maintain his upper body weight. Lattimore's doctor, Dr. James Andrews, is at the Combine to update teams on Lattimore's rehab. If teams get good reports, that could help Lattimore to get mid-round consideration.

    Ohio State's Zach Boren has returned to the backfield at the Combine. He started out his collegiate career as a fullback before moving to linebacker during his senior season. Boren (5-11, 23 is a better fit as a fullback in the NFL and will be working out at that position in Indianapolis.
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    Those interested in the combine might find the following useful. At least it will save a whole lot of counting.

    Quarterback: 16
    Running back: 38
    Wide receiver: 39
    Tight end: 19
    Offensive line: 58
    Defensive line: 54
    Linebacker: 35
    Defensive back: 60
    Specialists: 14

    btw: The drills start today. [OL, TE, ST, PK]

    The RB's are scheduled for drills and stuff on Sunday. All those grids will be out Sunday night or Monday and paper comparisons of the backs will get rolling. Here is a link to the combine player schedule.

    http://www.nflcombine.net/players/schedule




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    Try again:

    Here's the number of players per position attending:
    Quarterback: 16
    Running back: 38
    Wide receiver: 39
    Tight end: 19
    Offensive line: 58
    Defensive line: 54
    Linebacker: 35
    Defensive back: 60
    Specialists: 14

    http://www.nflcombine.net/players/schedule


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    QB 16
    RB 38
    WR 39
    TE 19
    OL 58
    DL 54
    LB 35
    DB 60
    Spc 14

    ???? it won't paste. the link is not live. anyway the RB's drill sunday.

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    2013 NFL Combine: Bench Press Recap - Offensive Linemen

    The most impressive bench press total belongs to North Carolina guard Jonathan Cooper. He weighed in heavier than expected at 311 pounds and apparently that added weight is muscle. Cooper tied for second with the largest number of reps on the bench press with 35. He benefits from having short arms (33 inches) but the strength was impressive to see considering he is known as a blocker who features rare speed and agility. Cooper is helping himself in the early going at the Combine.

    The current favorite to be the first player selected is Texas A&M left tackle Luke Joeckel. He had a respectable total of 27 reps on the bench press. Joeckel beats defenders mainly on his speed, agility and technique so he should perform well in the field work.

    Central Michigan tackle Eric Fisher is the second-rated tackle, and he matched Joeckel with 27 reps. It was a good total, as Fisher (6-7, 306) had good power as a collegiate blocker. There aren't any strength criticisms of Fisher.

    Oklahoma tackle Lane Johnson (6-6, 303) has longer arms (35 3/ than Joeckel (34 1/4) or Fisher (34 1/2), yet Johnson was able to push up 225 pounds one more time than those linemen. Johnson's 28 reps was the largest total among the first-round offensive tackles. He was known as a pass blocker who needed work on his run defense, so this bench press total was a good sign for him.

    Alabama offensive tackle D.J. Fluker had a surprising total of 21 reps on the bench press. Fluker (6-5, 339) is a power player so it was somewhat surprising that he didn't produce more on the bench press. In Fluker's defense, he has extremely long arms at 36 3/4 inches. Teams have and will see how devastating Fluker is on tape, so it is doubtful that Fluker's bench press will hurt him at all.

    Wisconsin center Travis Frederick is another lineman who had a disappointing total with 21 reps on the bench press. Frederick (6-4, 312) was a power run blocker for the Badgers and he has short arms (33 inches). Thus, it was surprising that he didn't record a higher time. Typically interior linemen have an advantage in the bench press, but Frederick had one of the lower totals among the offensive linemen. Frederick looks like he could use more time in the weight room.

    Apparently, the effective Wisconsin offensive line has been getting the job down on a lot of natural ability. Badgers' tackle Ricky Wagner had only 20 reps on the bench press. Wagner (6-6, 30 is more athletic than one would think, but he could use more power to knock linemen off the ball in the NFL. His bad bench press total isn't going to help his chances of being a second-day pick.

    Virginia offensive tackle Oday Aboushi had a disappointing total with only 17 reps on the bench press. That was the third lowest of any lineman who participated. Aboushi has short arms (33 7/ so that isn't an excuse that works for him. In college, he was a speed and athletic tackle, but Aboushi (6-5, 30 needs to gain muscle for the NFL.

    The second-lowest total belonged to USC center Khaled Holmes. He only totaled 13 reps on the bench press, but there is talk that he hurt his pectoral muscle and called it short. Aside from a possible injury, Holmes (6-3, 302) has the excuse of long arms (35 inches). Holmes is an interior lineman who needs to have the strength to hold up against heavy nose tackles. That was a problem for him in his senior season, and the bench press total was evidence that it could reman an issue in the NFL. Holmes needs to improve on that total significantly at his pro day.

    The lowest number on the bench press belonged to Kent State's Brian Winters. He had only nine reps, but that was because he also suffered an injury.
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    2013 NFL Combine: Bench Press Recap - Tight Ends Rice's Vance McDonald was the best tight end in the bench press. He notched a staggering total of 31 reps. McDonald also has the second-longest arms of any tight end at 34 3/8 inches. The 6-foot-4, 267-pounder looks like he is well on his way to being a combine star. The second-highest total came from Stanford tight end Zach Ertz. The Cardinal stand out had 24 reps on the bench press, though he was aided by having short arms (31 3/4). Ertz (6-5, 249) was a good blocker in college, so this strength is not a complete surprise. Still, it was a good total for Ertz as he was second to only McDonald. Most have Notre Dame tight end Tyler Eifert as the No. 1-rated tight end in the draft. Eifert (6-6, 250) did well with 22 reps on the bench press. As a senior, Eifert really improved his blocking, and that added strength was on display with a quality bench press total. Two heavy tight ends had the same total on the bench press. Colorado's Nick Kasa (22 reps) and Michigan State's Dion Sims (22 reps) tied Eifert for the third-largest total on the bench press. Kasa (6-6, 269) and Sims (6-5, 262) both have blocking potential, and their respectable showing on the bench press illustrates that. Three lower bench press totals weren't surprising. Florida's Jordan Reed (16 reps), Stanford's Levine Toilolo (17 reps) and UCLA's Joseph Fauria (17 reps) would not be expected to produce big totals. Reed (6-2, 236) is a smaller receiving tight end, while Toilolo (6-8, 260) and Fauria (6-7, 259) are lanky tight ends. All three need to add power to be effective blockers in the NFL. It looks like a mistake, but Rutgers tight end D.C. Jefferson had only three reps on the bench press. Unfortunately, he was injured during the procedure and had to go to the hospital. It's a tough break for a borderline draftable prospect.
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    7. AJ Barner TE

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    Three lower bench press totals weren't surprising. Florida's Jordan Reed (16 reps), Stanford's Levine Toilolo (17 reps) and UCLA's Joseph Fauria (17 reps) would not be expected to produce big totals.

    Why not? I know there have been some threads suggesting even TE as a 1st or 2nd rd option. I just don't think so. But, if they could get one in the lower rds like Fauria I believe that player starts for the team next year.

    I started this post with a bunch of ????? marks. I could not figure out how Chadman could be postings all that info at 10am EST when I thought they were going to do this stuff for the OL and TE today. [Sat] Okay I checked the schedule they do the field stuff today and did the bench thing Friday. But still that is really fast reporting. That was why I posted that schedule link which did not work anyway.

    Also. I think I have corrected the black print problem. I found the box at the top of the message that said paste as plain text. Hope that solves the problem. It the first paragraph is legible--it did!

    Tomorrow they do the RB's. Today they will bench press. Is there going to be discussion on these players allowed?

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    Hard to believe, but footfallsfuture.com already has todays results for the OG, OT, and TE's posted.
    Anyone interested in seeing how their favorites in those positions stacked up take a look.

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    3. Malachi Corley WR
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    6. Trevin Wallace ILB
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