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Thread: Let's take a look at 3-4 OLB's on the roster

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyesq View Post
    Aside from Worilds and Davis, they were all late round picks. And Sylvester is not worthless - he is a solid special teams contributor.

    Also, Sylvester, Humpal and Wallace were drafted as ILBs.
    Inside, outside...Timmons was drafted as an OLB. Point is, they have made many bad LB picks over all. Let's not forget Huey Richardson, if we want to talk about FAIL LB picks. And Woodley, based on this season, is FAIL. I know, he has had some good seasons, but ever since his big contract? He has been mostly worthless. They gonna pay him $13 mill next year? Yea, that seems really prudent.

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    One thing that has not been brought up in this thread: Since more teams are now running a 3-4, does that not make it more difficult to find the 2-3rd round picks to excel as OLBs? It must make it more difficult to find steals - just do the math. More teams looking for smallish DEs to convert into 3-4 OLBs means harder for us to find those guys after the first round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lloydroid View Post
    One thing that has not been brought up in this thread: Since more teams are now running a 3-4, does that not make it more difficult to find the 2-3rd round picks to excel as OLBs? It must make it more difficult to find steals - just do the math. More teams looking for smallish DEs to convert into 3-4 OLBs means harder for us to find those guys after the first round.
    More college teams run hybrid defenses. Not buying this argument anymore. Half of the league still runs a 4-3 variant. It's been 50-50 for 10 years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lloydroid View Post
    Let's take a look at all the failed draft picks, that, had they hit on a few, we wouldn't be in this bad situation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRob View Post
    Absolutely. I know a lot of people don't like him, but the upside is out of this world. He is also one of the LSU players that coaches said was very dedicated, unlike Sam Montgomery.
    I think Tomlin will love him. His athleticism jumps off the chart.

    He is also very oddly built at the same time. He looks like a CB/S that was too big and converted to OLB. We would really have a lot of speed and athleticism at the LB position with a lineup of Worlids, Timmons, Spence, and Bark.

    Whether he meets his potential or not, teams would still have to game plan against him because of his athleticism and that frees up other guys to make plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    I think Tomlin will love him. His athleticism jumps off the chart.

    He is also very oddly built at the same time. He looks like a CB/S that was too big and converted to OLB. We would really have a lot of speed and athleticism at the LB position with a lineup of Worlids, Timmons, Spence, and Bark.

    Whether he meets his potential or not, teams would still have to game plan against him because of his athleticism and that frees up other guys to make plays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lloydroid View Post
    Let's take a look at all the failed draft picks, that, had they hit on a few, we wouldn't be in this bad situation.

    Jason Worilds - Could still produce, led team in sacks.
    Incorrect. Worilds had 5. James Harrison and Lawrence Timmons were tied for the team lead with 6.


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    Lets look at this from a different angle. Say the steelers can keep James cheap for 1 or 2 years. Woodley can stay healthy and produce like he did. Maybe even move to Harrisons side. Worilds sticks for back up and/or replace Woodley? Robinson grows and COULD be used on 3rd downs to rush in 2013? (Can he rush from either side? I remember him in preseason on Woodleys side?) Maybe Robinson or Woodley can be the replacement for James instead of a 1st rd pick? Maybe some here are right and we need a NT to help the rest be much better. Also is there a 2-7rd 3-4 OLB instead of using a 1st rd pick?
    Thinking outside the box again. Because if James is still here for 2013 will a 1st rd OLB see the field much? Also a bad azz NT will help Timmons blitz and Spence if recovered. ( Hope he used all day AP's doctor). Will a NT help get us back to Blitz Burgh? Another question for you guru's. Who will/could blitz better between Timmons and Spence? Timmons from inside is a beast sometimes. But was Spence any good at blitzing in college?
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    The problem is this:

    Right now, there are too many unknowns...

    The only things we know are these:

    1) We are paying Woodley a lot of money, so he will be here.
    2) We are paying James Harrison too much money, so his status is in doubt.
    3) Worilds can play, but is a FA.

    Carter, Robinson, Spence and Sylvester may or may not pan out...

    Basically, if the BPA is a LB, like Te'o or Mingo, can the Steelers go wrong?

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    Not sure what Worilds has done wrong to be completely written off as a failure at this point. He looks just about on track to be peaking as James Harrison leaves the building.

    Saying that Woodley is a 'fail' because he didn't play at his usual standard this season is like calling Hampton a 'fail' because he wasn't dominant this season. Woodley is fine. Injury is his biggest concern- always has been. Same with Troy, but you don't hear people clamoring to get rid of Troy.

    Steelers have used a few 'measurables' at the combine to pinpoint their LB options over the last few years, so until we see how they measure up, it's too hard to even guess at who they would look at. That said, Ohio St's John Simon looks interesting as a 2nd round type prospect, or if they look later in the draft Nebraska's Eric Martin looks to have just the right amount of nasty in him. Could even add Florida's Lerentee McCray as a mid round option.
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