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    Quote Originally Posted by steelz09 View Post
    He's a OLB. What is your definition of "true" LB?
    He's a rush end. He's not a WLB,MLB/ILB, or a SLB.

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    Oh God. More talk of another OL in round 1. IF Teo is there, he's a Stiller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRob View Post
    This wasn't about year one impact. Never said this discussion was about year one impact. This was about drafting players for the long term. Please stop with the year one impact thing. That is short sighted draft strategy. The Steelers draft for the long term, not the short term.

    Uhh No, I am saying you don't need to draft ILB in round one to get pro bowl players. ILB has become a 2nd round position.
    But that is what you should be getting if you are drafting 11th or 12th. An immediate impact player.
    Steelers 2014 Draft

    1-Darqueze Dennard CB Michigan State
    2-Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
    3-Jordan Tripp ILB/OLB Montana
    4-Christian Jones ILB Florida State
    5-Brent Urban DE Virginia
    5-Michael Schofield OG/OT Michigan
    6-Kadeem Edwards OG Tennessee State
    6-Ben Gardner DE Stanford
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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    In the nickel, you have a 4 man DL and 2 ILB, so they would both be out there.

    When you go to dime, you'd have a 4 man DL and 1 ILB (you could use Te'o inside, and have Timmons put his hand in the dirt as a DE...granted, he wasn't a great replacement as a 3-4 OLB, but maybe he's better as a rush end in a 4 man line instead). We could also go with a 3 man DL in dime with 2 ILB, rushing either Timmons or Te'o from the inside (the offense wouldn't know which one).
    Thank you Ruthless!

    If LeBeau had this luxury you can bet he would be doing everything possible to always have the best 11 on the field. Playmakers make plays regardless of what down it is.
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    1-Darqueze Dennard CB Michigan State
    2-Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
    3-Jordan Tripp ILB/OLB Montana
    4-Christian Jones ILB Florida State
    5-Brent Urban DE Virginia
    5-Michael Schofield OG/OT Michigan
    6-Kadeem Edwards OG Tennessee State
    6-Ben Gardner DE Stanford
    7-Aaron Colvin CB Oklahoma

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Dub View Post
    But that is what you should be getting if you are drafting 11th or 12th. An immediate impact player.
    Thats not reality. Reality is that the college players need time to adjust to the nfl unless they are unbelievably special. Not getting that at 11 or 12 this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRob View Post
    He's a rush end. He's not a WLB,MLB/ILB, or a SLB.
    He can cover as well. He's a playmaker and we need playmakers in a bad way. Jones needs to bulk up a bit. At 6-2, he's 242.

    Either way, I'd take Teo or Jones.

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    Reality is also that the Browns are not beating the Steelers with Thaddeus Lewis as their QB. Steelers are not picking 11 or 12.

    I would consider Te'o at pick 15 and lower, but someone will buy the hype machine and draft him in the top 10 picks.

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    According to many draft sites, Teo is gone by the 5th pick. I don't see the Steelers trading that far up for the guy.
    Time to move on with a more realistic pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Dub View Post
    But that is what you should be getting if you are drafting 11th or 12th. An immediate impact player.
    It is also quite possible to get impact players in the 2nd. Hence my posting of Lavonte David and Bobby Wagner this year.

    Many more examples are available. Lofa Tatupu in 2005 anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRob View Post
    We played a lot of Dime this year. Why ask Timmons to do something you know he is not good at? Christ the man had 3 interceptions this year. We know he can hold down the middle.

    No need to waste a pick on a devalued position when you already have one stud ILB. Te'o and Timmons strength is coverage. We don't need another Timmons clone.

    We can pick up an ILB in the 2nd or 3rd and be just fine. Use your first pick on a value position LT,CB, or a Pass Rusher.
    LaMarr Woodley has played with a hand on the ground.

    Keisel, Heyward, Hood, and Woodley across with Te'o and Timmons inside. And from the Inside either one of those guys can drop or rush the passer. Or they both can drop. This gives Le Beau a lot more options than he has now.

    The idea with their first round pick Rob, is get the best player on the board who also happens to fill a need. Dont draft for biggest need and wind up with a lesser valued player and dont hope can pick up a certain position later on in the draft. That isnt the smart way to draft.
    Steelers 2014 Draft

    1-Darqueze Dennard CB Michigan State
    2-Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
    3-Jordan Tripp ILB/OLB Montana
    4-Christian Jones ILB Florida State
    5-Brent Urban DE Virginia
    5-Michael Schofield OG/OT Michigan
    6-Kadeem Edwards OG Tennessee State
    6-Ben Gardner DE Stanford
    7-Aaron Colvin CB Oklahoma

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