Wally is our new BA

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Based on this year only....his entire body of work puts him much higher on the chart....

The sad part is that we don't have another receiver better than him this year....

If you start going beyond this year though then you have to throw the last 2 or three years from other WR's up and add players like Fitzgerald, Greg Jennings, Hakeem Nixon, Jordy Nelson, and others into the discussion...

[RuthlessBurgher]

If you start going beyond this year though then you have to throw the last 2 or three years from other WR's up and add players like Fitzgerald, Greg Jennings, Hakeem Nixon, Jordy Nelson, and others into the discussion...

Hakeem Nicks is not a crook.

[steelz09]

My problem with Wallace is that I look around the league and I see A LOT of receivers that I could get for the $$ amount he wants or less. And a lot of those receivers are better in my eyes. They pass the eye test. Now, a lot of people will bring up stats to prove that Wallace is superior. Also, people have a tendency to forget the fact that some WRs, although very talented, have crappy QBs. It's not just about stats. You need to look at all aspects of a players situation and his overall ability.

With Wallace, I see elite speed and not much of anything else above average.

Here's a question... where would Wallace be on the GB Packers depth chart?

Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, James Jones, Randall Cobb. Would Wallace even dress on Sundays?

Is Wallace the better deep threat than all of these players? Quite possibly.

A more interesting question... Is Wallace a better overall WR than ANY of these players? Maybe not.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

[url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/09/three-years-of-yards-per-route-run-wide-receivers/[/url]

Yards per route run is interesting. Wallace isn't in the top 15.

[steelfin]

[URL]https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/09/three-years-of-yards-per-route-run-wide-receivers/[/URL]

Yards per route run is interesting. Wallace isn't in the top 15.

So what are you saying? Do you want him gone next season? Is there a $ amount you would be willing to sign him for?

Would you pay him the $48 Million we are paying AB?

Where does AB rank on your list above?

[Mister Pittsburgh]

So what are you saying? Do you want him gone next season? Is there a $ amount you would be willing to sign him for?
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Would you pay him the $48 Million we are paying AB?

Where does AB rank on your list above?

Here's the thing...with Wallace I see a lot of Willie Parker. Guy can flat out burn, and he does get behind defenses. He seems to have big holes in his game. A lot of the time instead of catching the ball with his hands he catches it with his body. The top WR in the league are a bit more physical then Wallace. My biggest thing is like Parker, he is mostly a one trick Pony. That one trick is really great but I fear he will end up getting a leg injury like Parker, and once he loses that speed he would be a subpar WR. I think if he slowed down where he couldn't burn the opposition he would be right below A Nate Washington when he was here.

I guess I would like a little more of a taller physical WR that can go up against DB's and actually use their hands and out physical the DB's and come down with the ball.

I think Brown has a lot of really good tools but needs to mature and improve. I could see him being close to what a Holmes was when he was here.

If you are running a quick passing game a big bodied great handed WR can be more valuable to move the chains then a speedy small guy that isn't physical.

[SS Laser]

[URL]https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/09/three-years-of-yards-per-route-run-wide-receivers/[/URL]

Yards per route run is interesting. Wallace isn't in the top 15.

Here is another: [URL]http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/03/28/2011-yards-per-route-run-wide-receivers/[/URL]

#	Name	Team	Rec. Yards	Snaps in Route	YPRR
1	Victor Cruz	NYG	1536	499	3.08
2	Jordy Nelson	GB	1263	423	2.99
3	Antonio Brown	PIT	1108	427	2.59
4	Wes Welker	NE	1569	607	2.58
5	Malcom Floyd	SD	856	337	2.54
6	Percy Harvin	MIN	975	390	2.50
7	Calvin Johnson	DET	1685	692	2.43
8	Marques Colston	NO	1143	473	2.42
9	Brandon Marshall	MIA	1214	513	2.37
10	Steve L. Smith	CAR	1394	590	2.36
11	Dwayne Bowe	KC	1159	504	2.30
12	Johnny Knox	CHI	729	321	2.27
13	Darrius Heyward-Bey	OAK	975	431	2.26
14	Doug Baldwin	SEA	792	354	2.24
15	Larry Fitzgerald	ARZ	1411	632	2.23
16	Mike Wallace	PIT	1193	554	2.15
16	Laurent Robinson	DAL	858	399	2.15
18	Roddy White	ATL	1296	613	2.11
18	A.J. Green	CIN	1057	500	2.11
20	Julio Jones	ATL	959	456	2.10
20	Demaryius Thomas	DEN	551	263	2.10

[flippy]

Here is another: [URL]http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/03/28/2011-yards-per-route-run-wide-receivers/[/URL]

#	Name	Team	Rec. Yards	Snaps in Route	YPRR
1	Victor Cruz	NYG	1536	499	3.08
2	Jordy Nelson	GB	1263	423	2.99
3	Antonio Brown	PIT	1108	427	2.59
4	Wes Welker	NE	1569	607	2.58
5	Malcom Floyd	SD	856	337	2.54
6	Percy Harvin	MIN	975	390	2.50
7	Calvin Johnson	DET	1685	692	2.43
8	Marques Colston	NO	1143	473	2.42
9	Brandon Marshall	MIA	1214	513	2.37
10	Steve L. Smith	CAR	1394	590	2.36
11	Dwayne Bowe	KC	1159	504	2.30
12	Johnny Knox	CHI	729	321	2.27
13	Darrius Heyward-Bey	OAK	975	431	2.26
14	Doug Baldwin	SEA	792	354	2.24
15	Larry Fitzgerald	ARZ	1411	632	2.23
16	Mike Wallace	PIT	1193	554	2.15
16	Laurent Robinson	DAL	858	399	2.15
18	Roddy White	ATL	1296	613	2.11
18	A.J. Green	CIN	1057	500	2.11
20	Julio Jones	ATL	959	456	2.10
20	Demaryius Thomas	DEN	551	263	2.10

Interesting - 2 Steelers in that list. That was BA's offense. They took big chances and worked with what they have. Now Haley is probably killing the WR stats with his offense. We're now focused on getting balance. The problem is we dont yet have the personnel to be balanced. And we might have to revert back to taking some chances if we want to do anything this year.

Give Ben the rope Haley.

[BURGH86STEEL]

My problem with Wallace is that I look around the league and I see A LOT of receivers that I could get for the $$ amount he wants or less. And a lot of those receivers are better in my eyes. They pass the eye test. Now, a lot of people will bring up stats to prove that Wallace is superior. Also, people have a tendency to forget the fact that some WRs, although very talented, have crappy QBs. It's not just about stats. You need to look at all aspects of a players situation and his overall ability.

With Wallace, I see elite speed and not much of anything else above average.

Here's a question... where would Wallace be on the GB Packers depth chart?

Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, James Jones, Randall Cobb. Would Wallace even dress on Sundays?

Is Wallace the better deep threat than all of these players? Quite possibly.

A more interesting question... Is Wallace a better overall WR than ANY of these players? Maybe not.

Wallace would be a starter for the Packers and most teams around the league. Most teams don't have a WR that has the football speed that Wallace possesses. Whether fans want to admit it or not, Wallace is a difference maker with or without the football. He is a big play threat. Wallace isn't irreplaceable but the Steeler's offense will miss Wallace's big play ability if they can't resign him. The question is how will they replace Wallace's play ability and production?

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Wallace would be a starter for the Packers and most teams around the league. Most teams don't have a WR that has the football speed that Wallace possesses. Whether fans want to admit it or not, Wallace is a difference maker with or without the football. He is a big play threat. Wallace isn't irreplaceable but the Steeler's offense will miss Wallace's big play ability if they can't resign him. The question is how will they replace Wallace's play ability and production?

Same way they did when Plax left, Washington, left, Holmes left.....