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    Ben no longer clutch

    Remember when Ben would march us down the field late for a W?


    Me neither... that was looong ago.

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    He still has it. He just doesn't do anything the rest of the game
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    Ben seems to have some difficulty throwing to his right accurately, unless his feet are well set to throw that way. Wondering what effects the injuries have to do with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DukieBoy View Post
    Ben seems to have some difficulty throwing to his right accurately, unless his feet are well set to throw that way. Wondering what effects the injuries have to do with that.
    I was wondering how some of the checkdowns could be so off, like at their feet and into the ground.

    On the OT INT - I thought that was a terrible play call. Never have liked that long out. Same type of play as was picked in the Denver game. If picked you get a big return. You only need 4 yards for a first down. What the heck? I blame Ben cuz they were running no huddle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DukieBoy View Post
    Ben seems to have some difficulty throwing to his right accurately, unless his feet are well set to throw that way. Wondering what effects the injuries have to do with that.
    Good observation...after seeing the 60 yard bomb to Wallace, I figured that we were out of the woods with regard to Ben's shoulder issue. However, you are correct about throwing to his right. He bounce-passed a screen toward Wallace on the right side earlier, and then was woefully short on another simple screen to the right (may have been Will Johnson that other time, but I'm not 100% sure). Then in overtime, it should have been a straightforward completion to Wallace, but it was behind him and had very little oomph on it. I wonder if there is some lingering range of motion issue with throwing to his right and compared to throwing straight ahead and to his left. Granted, the TD to Miller was to the right, but it wasn't a bang-bang snap-throw play...he was able to scramble around prior to that throw, so the same issues with regard to how his feet are planted are not in play there as compared to WR screens and quick outs to the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    Good observation...after seeing the 60 yard bomb to Wallace, I figured that we were out of the woods with regard to Ben's shoulder issue. However, you are correct about throwing to his right. He bounce-passed a screen toward Wallace on the right side earlier, and then was woefully short on another simple screen to the right (may have been Will Johnson that other time, but I'm not 100% sure). Then in overtime, it should have been a straightforward completion to Wallace, but it was behind him and had very little oomph on it. I wonder if there is some lingering range of motion issue with throwing to his right and compared to throwing straight ahead and to his left. Granted, the TD to Miller was to the right, but it wasn't a bang-bang snap-throw play...he was able to scramble around prior to that throw, so the same issues with regard to how his feet are planted are not in play there as compared to WR screens and quick outs to the right.
    It looked Ben had Peyton's arm strength on that throw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    It looked Ben had Peyton's arm strength on that throw.

    If Ben played like Peyton we would still be in the hunt for #7....

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    Those long outs are trouble, especially if you have a QB coming off a shoulder injury. Sure, Roethlisberger played, but that doesn't necessarily mean his shoulder was 100%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBR96A View Post
    Those long outs are trouble, especially if you have a QB coming off a shoulder injury. Sure, Roethlisberger played, but that doesn't necessarily mean his shoulder was 100%.
    I blame Wallace as much as Ben on that INT throw in OT. At one time the BEST Steelers WR (86) ever comes back to the ball with effort and makes that catch! I wonder if Ward was so good from playing with crappy QB's?
    Boy Wallace better hope he goes to a team with a QB equal or better then Ben.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Laser View Post
    I blame Wallace as much as Ben on that INT throw in OT. At one time the BEST Steelers WR (86) ever comes back to the ball with effort and makes that catch! I wonder if Ward was so good from playing with crappy QB's?
    Boy Wallace better hope he goes to a team with a QB equal or better then Ben.
    Well that narrows the field to three, maybe four, teams.
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