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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Spaghetti View Post
    so what?

    you still have to be able to handle a 4-8 team at home. This looks like a sloppy and undisciplined football team. Couple more ST penalties again today. Why was the coach fired 2 weeks before the season again?
    And poorly prepared. The OL seemed very much not ready to compete, today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelhere10 View Post
    Exactly..
    But to also add the great Bellicheat lost to Arizona @ home and to an inferior Seattle team, why is no one questioning him. With a healthy Brady.
    That's true. But Belichick uses the early part of the season to figure things out on offense and defense. Then he asks the team to turn it up a notch over the final eight games of the year.

    Pats have not lost a game in the 2nd half of the season since 2009.
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    These guys really just get lazy and unfocused and awful lot. Who would be responsible for those areas, again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lloydroid View Post
    These guys really just get lazy and unfocused and awful lot. Who would be responsible for those areas, again?
    Again, who's fault is it that guys getting paid millions to show up on a stage and perform for 3 hours a week are lazy or not focused?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Pittsburgh View Post
    How would you recommend Tomlin get grownassed men to 'get more pumped up' to play? Should he give better pre game speeches? Yell at them all week? Really chew them out on the sideline? It's on the players as far as showing up to play. Only think I would blame Tomlin on is crappy drafting.
    This is how Chadman is thinking. These players are professionals. They get paid to 'be up for it'. The HC is responsible for putting the best team on the field, giving them the right gameplan, and yes- giving them some direction. But if the players are disinterested, that's on the players.

    Wouldn't call Tomlin's drafting 'crappy', but it certainly seems to lack a degree of 'leadership quality' in the players brought onboard. As this team gets older, it's becoming more apparent that there is a lack of 'team leaders' in the up-and-coming ranks. Might be a good time to address that..
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    Quote Originally Posted by lloydroid View Post
    How can you not blame the head coach for losing to 4 bad teams. They were flat; you saw that from play 1. They came in unfocused and f-ing flat. Who's fault is that? The head man. He has some serious flaws. One of the worst losses in team history. No excuse for this one. None. Pathetic.
    Stop being so dramatic - you have absolutely no perspective...this doesn't even come close to "one of the worst losses in team history". The Chargers played inspired ball & they have a good defense, remember this is the same Charger team that held Baltimore to fewer points & should've won that game if not for the incredible 4 & 29 conversion.

    But to answer your question...you don't blame the coaches when turnovers affect the outcome of the game, you don't blame coaches when players fail to execute or just get physically beat during a play - that happens in sports & thats what happened today. I'm not saying that coaches don't have bad days like the rest of us, but thats not the problem here - the players are. I don't know what standard or who you're comparing Tomlin to, but just keeping to the Steelers do you really think that Cowher & Noll never had games or seasons like this? Tomlin is one of the best HC's in the game, does it make him perfect - no...but he's a helluva lot better than the Ken Whizenhunt's, John Harbaugh's & Rex Ryan's of the world. Stop acting like chicken-little, we're still position to get to the playoffs & still a team that will have a puncher's chance to take the title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DukieBoy View Post
    And poorly prepared. The OL seemed very much not ready to compete, today.
    C'mon man...Colon goes out with injury early, Legursky has to come in & switch Pouncey to LG, plus the rookie Beachum starting - it wasn't preparation that was the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiproast View Post
    That's true. But Belichick uses the early part of the season to figure things out on offense and defense. Then he asks the team to turn it up a notch over the final eight games of the year.

    Pats have not lost a game in the 2nd half of the season since 2009.
    Except Super Bowls... sorry couldn't help it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiproast View Post
    That's true. But Belichick uses the early part of the season to figure things out on offense and defense. Then he asks the team to turn it up a notch over the final eight games of the year.

    Pats have not lost a game in the 2nd half of the season since 2009.
    Did not know this. It's impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Life View Post
    Except Super Bowls... sorry couldn't help it.
    Yeah, Pats don't get to play AFC West teams in the Super Bowl (sorry, couldn't help it).
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