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    Big Tomlin supporter here, but yes, some responsibility needs to fall on his shoulders. The Steelers lose a lot of games they should be winning. They also win a lot of games they have no right to win.

    It looks like an 'attitude' thing. Now, while a bit of this has to come from the coaches, it also comes from the senior players, who have had a good long career of beating these lower sides. Could it be that the older, more experienced players feel a certain amount of 'entitlement' that they should be beating these teams, and perhaps switch off a little more? Where were Hampton, Keisel, Harrison, Polamalu when the Defense needed a big stop? Not saying they are bad players, but they could have fallen into a culture of 'expectation'. If ever there were signs that this team needs an injection of young 'leaders', it's games like this.
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    Just like Phil Sims said at the start of the game, that after playing Baltimore the team are physically and mentally beat up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelhere10 View Post
    Exactly..
    But to also add the great Bellicheat lost to Arizona @ home and to an inferior Seattle team, why is no one questioning him. With a healthy Brady.
    What was arizonas record when they played and did seatle have twice as many losses as wins when they beat NE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by squidkid View Post
    What was arizonas record when they played and did seatle have twice as many losses as wins when they beat NE?
    Take a look at the Chargers first, all of their losses have come from 7 or less OR something of that nature. Along with a rusty Ben and this is what you have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelhere10 View Post
    Just like Phil Sims said at the start of the game, that after playing Baltimore the team are physically and mentally beat up.
    so what?

    you still have to be able to handle a 4-8 team at home. This looks like a sloppy and undisciplined football team. Couple more ST penalties again today. Why was the coach fired 2 weeks before the season again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    Big Tomlin supporter here, but yes, some responsibility needs to fall on his shoulders. The Steelers lose a lot of games they should be winning. They also win a lot of games they have no right to win.

    It looks like an 'attitude' thing. Now, while a bit of this has to come from the coaches, it also comes from the senior players, who have had a good long career of beating these lower sides. Could it be that the older, more experienced players feel a certain amount of 'entitlement' that they should be beating these teams, and perhaps switch off a little more? Where were Hampton, Keisel, Harrison, Polamalu when the Defense needed a big stop? Not saying they are bad players, but they could have fallen into a culture of 'expectation'. If ever there were signs that this team needs an injection of young 'leaders', it's games like this.
    not ragging on you chadman but what games did they have no right winning during tomlins tenure?
    i would like to compare your lots of losses to lots of wins
    i cant believe those two numbers are even gonna be close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelhere10 View Post
    Take a look at the Chargers first, all of their losses have come from 7 or less OR something of that nature. Along with a rusty Ben and this is what you have.

    what do the chargers have to do with your post regarding the losses to zona and seatle for NE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelhere10 View Post
    Just like Phil Sims said at the start of the game, that after playing Baltimore the team are physically and mentally beat up.
    I don't think Ben was all that rusty. Chargers D was zoned in. This team had nothing to lose and they just brought it. It happens, although I think it's happening a little more often than it should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squidkid View Post
    not ragging on you chadman but what games did they have no right winning during tomlins tenure?
    i would like to compare your lots of losses to lots of wins
    i cant believe those two numbers are even gonna be close.
    Will give you one right off the bat- Steelers-Ravens, a week ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lloydroid View Post
    How can you not blame the head coach for losing to 4 bad teams. They were flat; you saw that from play 1. They came in unfocused and f-ing flat. Who's fault is that? The head man. He has some serious flaws. One of the worst losses in team history. No excuse for this one. None. Pathetic.
    How would you recommend Tomlin get grownassed men to 'get more pumped up' to play? Should he give better pre game speeches? Yell at them all week? Really chew them out on the sideline? It's on the players as far as showing up to play. Only think I would blame Tomlin on is crappy drafting.
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