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    Double the yards of his nearest team mate. 3 times the yards of the #1 WR. 2 TD's.

    Wallace is a weapon, and won't be replaced by a guy on this roster. If/when the Steelers lose him, they'll need to replace him. Sanders, however, does a good Antonio Brown impersonation.

    Hate Wallace all you like, but at least try & be more balanced in the arguments. Anyone would think Wallace is little more than a part-player.

    In 4 seasons he's accumulated 3,934 yards. He's coming off back-to-back 1000+ yards seasons. He's never had less than 6 TD's in a season. He's on track for another 1000+ season, even with an offence that doesn't suit his style, and has admittedly underperformed.

    Brown on the other hand has 1 1000+ yard season under his belt, and doesn't look likely to eclipse that number this season, despite now being the #1 WR. He has never had more that 2 recieving TD's in a season. And he's had his number of drops this year too.

    But you all go on blaming Mike Wallace for the Steelers woes. By signing Brown to "Wallace's money" earlier this season, the Steelers didn't only 'make a statement', they built a rod for their own back, and put all their eggs in one basket. The FO must have known that, unless they would pony up more money for Wallace, that this would be a 'sign of disrespect' for a guy that has clearly outperformed Brown, which the FO must have known would make re-signing Wallace increasingly more difficult. Well done in keeping Brown, who is a very good possession reciever, in the fold. He looks a quality player. But they overspent for him, when Sander can do essentially the same job. Nobody on the roster can compare skill-sets with Wallace. And they've effectively run him out the door.

    Nobody will convince Chadman that Wallace isn't the best WR on this roster. Can he be replaced? Yes, sure. The Steelers will need to replace him though, whereas with Brown- they had his replacement already on the roster. That doesn't sound like sound Salary Cap management to Chadman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    Double the yards of his nearest team mate. 3 times the yards of the #1 WR. 2 TD's.

    Wallace is a weapon, and won't be replaced by a guy on this roster. If/when the Steelers lose him, they'll need to replace him. Sanders, however, does a good Antonio Brown impersonation.

    Hate Wallace all you like, but at least try & be more balanced in the arguments. Anyone would think Wallace is little more than a part-player.

    In 4 seasons he's accumulated 3,934 yards. He's coming off back-to-back 1000+ yards seasons. He's never had less than 6 TD's in a season. He's on track for another 1000+ season, even with an offence that doesn't suit his style, and has admittedly underperformed.

    Brown on the other hand has 1 1000+ yard season under his belt, and doesn't look likely to eclipse that number this season, despite now being the #1 WR. He has never had more that 2 recieving TD's in a season. And he's had his number of drops this year too.

    But you all go on blaming Mike Wallace for the Steelers woes. By signing Brown to "Wallace's money" earlier this season, the Steelers didn't only 'make a statement', they built a rod for their own back, and put all their eggs in one basket. The FO must have known that, unless they would pony up more money for Wallace, that this would be a 'sign of disrespect' for a guy that has clearly outperformed Brown, which the FO must have known would make re-signing Wallace increasingly more difficult. Well done in keeping Brown, who is a very good possession reciever, in the fold. He looks a quality player. But they overspent for him, when Sander can do essentially the same job. Nobody on the roster can compare skill-sets with Wallace. And they've effectively run him out the door.

    Nobody will convince Chadman that Wallace isn't the best WR on this roster. Can he be replaced? Yes, sure. The Steelers will need to replace him though, whereas with Brown- they had his replacement already on the roster. That doesn't sound like sound Salary Cap management to Chadman.
    He's the 45th most productive rec. in the NFL. Let's not start worshiping him just yet. He has sucked and he is a reason we are barely an over .500 team. And don't think his totally crap attitude doesn't hurt team chemistry. I can't wait until he is off this team; it can't happen fast enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-STEELER View Post
    im not defending wallace, he's been really bad.
    im concerned with the offense moving forward with a #1 receiver who cant seem to ever find the end zone and will be the focus point for DBs once wallace is gone
    Do we run Brown on the go patterns? Are we capable of running a pass play like SD ran on their first TD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lloydroid View Post
    He's the 45th most productive rec. in the NFL. Let's not start worshiping him just yet. He has sucked and he is a reason we are barely an over .500 team. And don't think his totally crap attitude doesn't hurt team chemistry. I can't wait until he is off this team; it can't happen fast enough.
    I don't find it exactly odd that the guy that runs the go patterns, on a team with a QB that likes to 'extend plays' and go for the HR, would lead the team in yards and TD's. Yeah, they. Have Brown in the possession role and running those patterns so not a shock he isn't leading the team in yards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lloydroid View Post
    He's the 45th most productive rec. in the NFL. Let's not start worshiping him just yet. He has sucked and he is a reason we are barely an over .500 team. And don't think his totally crap attitude doesn't hurt team chemistry. I can't wait until he is off this team; it can't happen fast enough.
    There's a difference between 'worship' & 'balanced argument'. You are only focussed on one part of my post, and using that to singulary portray him as a failure. That you don't like him is fine, but foaming at the mouth in rage doesn't make you absolutely correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    Double the yards of his nearest team mate. 3 times the yards of the #1 WR. 2 TD's.

    Wallace is a weapon, and won't be replaced by a guy on this roster. If/when the Steelers lose him, they'll need to replace him. Sanders, however, does a good Antonio Brown impersonation.

    Hate Wallace all you like, but at least try & be more balanced in the arguments. Anyone would think Wallace is little more than a part-player.

    In 4 seasons he's accumulated 3,934 yards. He's coming off back-to-back 1000+ yards seasons. He's never had less than 6 TD's in a season. He's on track for another 1000+ season, even with an offence that doesn't suit his style, and has admittedly underperformed.

    Brown on the other hand has 1 1000+ yard season under his belt, and doesn't look likely to eclipse that number this season, despite now being the #1 WR. He has never had more that 2 recieving TD's in a season. And he's had his number of drops this year too.

    But you all go on blaming Mike Wallace for the Steelers woes. By signing Brown to "Wallace's money" earlier this season, the Steelers didn't only 'make a statement', they built a rod for their own back, and put all their eggs in one basket. The FO must have known that, unless they would pony up more money for Wallace, that this would be a 'sign of disrespect' for a guy that has clearly outperformed Brown, which the FO must have known would make re-signing Wallace increasingly more difficult. Well done in keeping Brown, who is a very good possession reciever, in the fold. He looks a quality player. But they overspent for him, when Sander can do essentially the same job. Nobody on the roster can compare skill-sets with Wallace. And they've effectively run him out the door.

    Nobody will convince Chadman that Wallace isn't the best WR on this roster. Can he be replaced? Yes, sure. The Steelers will need to replace him though, whereas with Brown- they had his replacement already on the roster. That doesn't sound like sound Salary Cap management to Chadman.
    well said, chadman

    and in a league thats becoming more and more pass oriented, they better not choose the cheap option(low round option) of replacing wallace if they dont want to pay for him.

    they need a high pick or bring in a FA that can run and has some size... a true #1 if you will, casue i think AB is the perfect #2 (as is wallace IMO)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Pittsburgh View Post
    I don't find it exactly odd that the guy that runs the go patterns, on a team with a QB that likes to 'extend plays' and go for the HR, would lead the team in yards and TD's. Yeah, they. Have Brown in the possession role and running those patterns so not a shock he isn't leading the team in yards.
    Fair point. So who can do Wallace's role as well as Wallace on this roster?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    Fair point. So who can do Wallace's role as well as Wallace on this roster?
    Can't tell till you have other WR's run the HR routes and your QB throwing it to them. I don't understand why we don't run any stop & goes, pump fakes to our wr's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Pittsburgh View Post
    Can't tell till you have other WR's run the HR routes and your QB throwing it to them. I don't understand why we don't run any stop & goes, pump fakes to our wr's.
    Without Wallace's top-end speed on the field next season, we may need to do exactly that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Pittsburgh View Post
    Can't tell till you have other WR's run the HR routes and your QB throwing it to them. I don't understand why we don't run any stop & goes, pump fakes to our wr's.
    If Ben pump-faked today, that would be all that he would have gotten off. The OL was a mess today, for whatever reasons, injury, preparation, talent, coaching. Ben had to extend plays with his scrambles today. Ben's pump fakes are killer when he has time.
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