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Thread: Goodell Eyeing the Elimination of Kickoffs

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    Something for nothing? They fronted the risk and built the league and gave the players the opportunity to make their millions in return. Something for nothing? That's ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jooser View Post
    Something for nothing? They fronted the risk and built the league and gave the players the opportunity to make their millions in return. Something for nothing? That's ridiculous.
    Who fronted the risk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jooser View Post
    The NFL should cut their losses and settle the pending lawsuits. Then, they should require all current and future players to sign concussion and injury waivers. If the players want to participate in this violent sport and earn the chance at making bazillions of dollars doing it, then they waive their rights to so sue the league for injuries that they know full well in advance might occur. The sue-happy culture in this country is breaking it, everyone wants something for nothing.
    Exactly right. People want to blame Goodell, but his is a reaction to who-knows-how-many injury lawsuits, and sad stories he's been presented. We've heard the Ted Johnson's and the Dave Duerson's, but what else does the league know? It must be pretty sobering, if they're doing all that they're doing, including thinking about changing the kickoff rule. I really think people are being short-sighted, in vilifying him.

    I am in agreement that his dictatorial control over present league matters is problematice (that he is judge/jury/executioner). But he's not stupid. He knows what the "traditional" NFL fan is going to say about this, and about all the other safety measures he's trying to institute.

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    The NFL should cut their losses and settle the pending lawsuits. Then, they should require all current and future players to sign concussion and injury waivers. If the players want to participate in this violent sport and earn the chance at making bazillions of dollars doing it, then they waive their rights to so sue the league for injuries that they know full well in advance might occur. The sue-happy culture in this country is breaking it, everyone wants something for nothing.
    One of the smartest things I've read on this issue
    I wish people would/could leave politics out of a Steelers Football Forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jooser View Post
    The NFL should cut their losses and settle the pending lawsuits. Then, they should require all current and future players to sign concussion and injury waivers. If the players want to participate in this violent sport and earn the chance at making bazillions of dollars doing it, then they waive their rights to so sue the league for injuries that they know full well in advance might occur. The sue-happy culture in this country is breaking it, everyone wants something for nothing.
    well-stated and I completely agree...

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    Thank you gentlemen.

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    so much for goodell hating the steelers conspiracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    Who fronted the risk?
    Seriously? Do you think that the players don't understand the risks?

    They get paid way too much money....if the risk is not worth it to them, then they should find another job and see how the real world lives....

    The problem is that they spend all their money and can't take care of themselves afterwards...then they sue and expect someone else to handle their issues....

    Seems to be a common theme in this country...
    Last edited by steelfin; 12-08-2012 at 04:19 AM.

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    4th and 15 after a score would benefit us. What's more likely when you need possession after a score:

    1. Getting an onside kick.

    or

    2. Ben converting a 4th and 15.


    Given Ben's 3rd down conversion rate, we'd likely be the best at keeping the ball after a score when needed. I like the concept.

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    Some [URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/24/daly-belichick-makes-his-extra-point-by-thinking-o/"]background information[/URL] on this topic (from August 2011).

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