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Thread: If Ben can't go: You start Batch or Hoyer?

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    Seriously?? Hoyer comes in on Wednesday and is expected to play??

    Maybe we should have started BURRESS while we were at it.

    Batch is it people....he's our best option right now. We are talking QB here, not a kicker!
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    Fine, put Batch in.

    By the 2nd quarter, Hoyer will probably be playing because Batch will get hurt. The Ravens will stack the LOS like the Browns did because they had ZERO respect for Batch. The Steelers will play it safe, be very conservative because even the coaching staff doesn't have any faith in Batch's physical ability anymore.

    Batch will be put in 3rd and long situations. The Ravens will pin their ears back on 3rd down causing numerous sacks, turnovers and likely Batch getting hurt.

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    Check Down Charlie

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    I say give Hoyer a shot...what worst could happen after yesterdays game...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sword View Post
    I say give Hoyer a shot...what worst could happen after yesterdays game...
    Ummmm... 9 for 27 ... 110 yards, 0 TDs & 3 int's??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    Batch knows the team, knows the offense and still threw three INTs...

    Hoyer couldn't do worse...
    1 pick 6 by Hoyer would be worse than Batch's 3 TO's... especially if the RB's have another hot potato game.

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    I know that Batch will probably start if Ben can't go...

    But, honestly, how much worse could it be?

    Would the game plan be more conservative? How could it possibly be?

    Until last week, Charlie had barely any reps in practice...he looked like that after a full week...

    Are you telling me that Hoyer couldn't complete passes to Heath Miller?

    Once you are down to the #3 QB in a new offense, there isn't much difference between that #3 QB and a FA off the street...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    I know that Batch will probably start if Ben can't go...

    But, honestly, how much worse could it be?

    Would the game plan be more conservative? How could it possibly be?

    Until last week, Charlie had barely any reps in practice...he looked like that after a full week...

    Are you telling me that Hoyer couldn't complete passes to Heath Miller?

    Once you are down to the #3 QB in a new offense, there isn't much difference between that #3 QB and a FA off the street...
    Sure Hoyer could complete some passes to MILLER, but he'd also stare him down and maybe even get him ROCKED by a LB.

    I agree that a #3 is just a body, but CHARLIE BATCH won some games the year Ben got suspended didn't he?? He gives you your best chance to win...anyone who doesn't agree with that is DELUSIONAL to the Nth Degree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SidSmythe View Post
    Sure Hoyer could complete some passes to MILLER, but he'd also stare him down and maybe even get him ROCKED by a LB.

    I agree that a #3 is just a body, but CHARLIE BATCH won some games the year Ben got suspended didn't he?? He gives you your best chance to win...anyone who doesn't agree with that is DELUSIONAL to the Nth Degree.
    Rocked by a LB? You mean the same our #2 (Leftwich) got him rocked?

    Batch and Leftwich have nothing left in the tank. I thought Leftwich would have something but he proved inadequate.

    What some are failing to realize is that it's Batch's physical abilities that are the problem. Does he understand the offense. Surely. Does he understand defenses? Sure thing.

    The problem is that he doesn't have the zing to throw the ball and make throws that are required in this league anymore. It sucks but it's just the reality. Your playbook is limited with Batch throwing the ball. It's not because of his mental capacity, his preparation or understanding of the offense. It's simply because he doesn't have the arm to make the required throws anymore.

    What is a open WR is the NFL is not open to Batch anymore. He doesn't have the arm strength to fit the ball into tight spaces.

    He doesn't have the arm to throw the ball deep down field anymore.

    Even on out patterns, the ball is "floating".

    It sucks but that is just the reality for Batch.

    Batch's playbook will be just as limited as Hoyer because of his arm.

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    I mean do we win with either QB? I think not. I would rather give Hoyer some game time experience...take a chance. What I know for sure is we cant win with Batch.

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