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    Are Concussions Ruining Football?

    I was watching Real Sports and they did a piece on concussions at the college level. The NCAA has never paid to take care of injured players, so they haven't yet set the precedent of the NFL. But they too seem to have a major legal issue on their hands and now have their own concussion issue.

    They made a point on the show that a player can only take 1000 hits to the head. Not sure where they came up with that number. But they were saying they've got to limit practices and the amount of non game contact like the NFL to help fix the problem.

    On the flip side, they mentioned college coaches are telling the players they need the contact in practice to become better players. And I just realized this may be the crux of the problem with the current NFL. If you can't practice hitting, you don't become proficient at hitting. And the game suffers. Everyone becomes mediocre. And that's what we are watching today. Average teams. Everyone is middle of the road.

    I also wonder if this is why we see so many injuries. We're not weeding out the weak in practice. The attrition is now happening in the regular games. It's weird that there's still so many injuries given less practice in pads and less hitting outside of games. It's like the NFL is trying to address the concussion issue, but they're introducing new problems into the game as a result.

    And how does this impact the Steelers? It seems like it's taking us a little longer to develop as a team. In past seasons, we've developed team chemistry much quicker. We knew what we had in terms of talent by about week 2 or 3. This year it took until about week 7 or 8 until we started to see what this team is capable of. I wonder if players took as many hits by week 7 or 8 as they typically had by week 2 or 3 in the past?

    I never really thought about 20 or 30 year old college kids completely disabled from football. Not able to walk. Not able to talk. Not able to care for themselves. And they did it in exchange for a college education. Something that some of these kids can't even use given their condition.

    This whole concussion thing is a mess. It's a huge NFL issue, but it trickles down to younger kids. It's messed up even if the NFL gets it's house in order. Even if the NFL will take care of players if they get hurt, will the NCAA? Will this trickle down to high school? Pop Warner?

    Football may be dead. We may just be watching the game slowly bleed out. Knowing what we now know about the game, why would anyone let their kid play?

    Society is on the verge of realizing football is a vice. Would you give your kids alcohol? drugs? cigarettes? whatever? We may be at a point where its better for your kid to be mixed up in some other bad crowd other than a football team.

    How can you fix it other than to just blow it up?

    If you're a current player that's made a fortune, why not just walk away now if you're lucky enough to be healthy? Why hang on and take so much risk? I'm surprised we haven't had more Barry Sanders.

    All that said, I really like football. And this stuff bums me out the more I think about it. And I realize those of us that enjoy it (everyone) is to blame for watching. I can't figure out why I can't give this vice up? Man are we flipped up as a society. We love what is bad for us. It's sad. But it's unfortunately at our core. That's the real American dream.

    Oh well, who cares?

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    Let's destroy those mother humpers!!!!!!

    Let's make those Brownies regret the day they were born!!!!

    This is gonna be a nice little tune up on our way to #7!!!!!

    Let's go!!!!!!

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    The NFL's recent response to concussions is what's killing the game.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Flasteel View Post
    The NFL's recent response to concussions is what's killing the game.
    $$$$$

    They haven't yet taken the most logical step--mandating improved helmets. The technology is here to produce helmets that significantly reduce the occurrence of concussions. After all this time, why has the NFL not made this best and smartest of moves?

    At the same time, they're talking about expanding the season.

    The league says they're serious about making the game safer. But with what they're doing, it's obvious that player safety isn't really their primary motivator. It's all about profitability in the short term. Even if that means the long-term destruction of the game.

    When it comes to that kind of shortsightedness, unfortunately, they're no different than a lot of today's corporations and politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradshawsHairdresser View Post
    $$$$$

    They haven't yet taken the most logical step--mandating improved helmets. The technology is here to produce helmets that significantly reduce the occurrence of concussions. After all this time, why has the NFL not made this best and smartest of moves?

    At the same time, they're talking about expanding the season.

    The league says they're serious about making the game safer. But with what they're doing, it's obvious that player safety isn't really their primary motivator. It's all about profitability in the short term. Even if that means the long-term destruction of the game.

    When it comes to that kind of shortsightedness, unfortunately, they're no different than a lot of today's corporations and politicians.
    I personally believe they are only interested in making the game safer for the skill players. The offensive linemen, defensive linemen and linebackers take hits to the head on almost every play and in particularly the linemen. I don't know how you limit the head hits for the linemen and still call it tackle football. It's a dangerous game payed by big, strong and fast men.

    My only suggestion would be to limit the weight at each position and bring the game back to the size of the players in 60s and 70s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papillon View Post

    My only suggestion would be to limit the weight at each position and bring the game back to the size of the players in 60s and 70s.

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    That's a really interesting idea that I haven't heard brought up. They do it in Pop Warner. Why not the NFL.

    Although this could work against some of the best players who have gotten extremely big and athletic at the same time. And it would go against the shifting interest from Boxing to UFC. People like seeing big fat guys competing against smaller quicker more talented guys. 2 Welterweights competing is a tad boring in comparison.

    Another way to look at it, would you not allow Jimmy Graham or Gronk or Heeeeeeeeeeeeeth to line up out wide because they're too big to be a WR? Plus on the lines where the guys are biggest, fat sloppy guys arent the problem as much as guys like Suh or Ngata that are both big and fast and I don't know how you ask those guys to drop weight.

    Maybe they should come up with a way to really test for PEDs and remove them from the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papillon View Post

    My only suggestion would be to limit the weight at each position and bring the game back to the size of the players in 60s and 70s.
    I think it would be more fun to do it the other way around, to only allow the guys weighing over 300 lbs to be on the return teams. they would be so tired by the time they ran down the field they wouldn't be able to hit anyone hard enough to hurt them.

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