Tomlin's PC 11/13

[pfelix73]

Injuries

Ben- questionable for Sunday. Shoulder sprain.. SC Sprain. That's all he knows for now.

(I would doubt he plays- like everyone else is saying)

Brown- Questionable

Troy- Doubtful

Clark- re-evaluated later- but seems fine


On to Ravens Week.... update as I hear more..

Any Drs. in the house? what's a SC sprain?

[pfelix73]

I found this on the internet- Brett Favre had the same injury....

19. Sprained sternoclavicular (SC) joint, right shoulder

Year: 2010
Favre file: Finally forced to miss start versus New York Giants.
Feels like: Very, very painful. Swelling and tenderness in the front of the chest. The SC joint attaches the collarbone to the breastbone -- in essence, the arm to the body -- which means most upper-body motions are affected. Worst case scenario: An unstable collarbone can compress major blood vessels, including the jugular vein and aorta.
Standard treatment: Requires careful evaluation by a specialist. Less severe cases require ice, anti-inflammatories, wearing a sling for a few weeks and rehab with range-of-motion exercises. More severe cases require surgery to rebuild torn ligaments.
Average recovery time: Three weeks to more than three months.
Weekend warrior impact: Your status as a jeans-wearin', backyard football all-time quarterback may be in doubt. "It's typically an extremely difficult injury from which to recover fully," Millett says. "Especially for an overhead-throwing athlete."

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

I found this on the internet- Brett Favre had the same injury....

19. Sprained sternoclavicular (SC) joint, right shoulder

Year: 2010
Favre file: Finally forced to miss start versus New York Giants.
Feels like: Very, very painful. Swelling and tenderness in the front of the chest. The SC joint attaches the collarbone to the breastbone -- in essence, the arm to the body -- which means most upper-body motions are affected. Worst case scenario: An unstable collarbone can compress major blood vessels, including the jugular vein and aorta.
Standard treatment: Requires careful evaluation by a specialist. Less severe cases require ice, anti-inflammatories, wearing a sling for a few weeks and rehab with range-of-motion exercises. More severe cases require surgery to rebuild torn ligaments.
Average recovery time: Three weeks to more than three months.
Weekend warrior impact: Your status as a jeans-wearin', backyard football all-time quarterback may be in doubt. "It's typically an extremely difficult injury from which to recover fully," Millett says. "Especially for an overhead-throwing athlete."

That internet thing doesn't totally make sense - the sternum is in the middle of the chest, so it really doesn't have much to do with the shoulder. Maybe Tomlin got it wrong? (the clavicular part is the collar bone).

[SteelBucks]

Not good. I'm glad it's not a torn rotator cuff but a separation isn't all that great either. I'm totally guessing but I'm assuming he misses significant time and hoping he returns by the playoffs (if they make it of course). I'm planning for the worst but hoping for the best.

[RuthlessBurgher]

That internet thing doesn't totally make sense - the sternum is in the middle of the chest, so it really doesn't have much to do with the shoulder. Maybe Tomlin got it wrong? (the clavicular part is the collar bone).

It's correct.

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

It's correct.

Nice pic!

So the internet thing isn't quite right - it's at the middle of the chest, an "SC" problem doesn't involve the shoulder.

[JAR]

same injury Farve had in 2010

[Starlifter]

Nice pic!

So the internet thing isn't quite right - it's at the middle of the chest, an "SC" problem doesn't involve the shoulder.

Hip bone connected to the leg bone etc (sing it with me!)

Point is, it's all connected. I'll be shocked if Ben plays.

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

Hip bone connected to the leg bone etc (sing it with me!)

Point is, it's all connected. I'll be shocked if Ben plays.

Point taken!

It just seems odd that Tomlin (who would obviously just be repeating what the docs told him) would say "SC joint" when everyone else is writing about a shoulder sprain.

Wonder if he meant to say "AC joint"?


Either way, we can only hope he plays ...

[D Rock]

SC would explain why it was unusual, as it wasn't an AC injury.

SC dislocations tend to require a lot of force...car accidents and things of the sort...but certainly huge men falling on top of each other also brings a lot of force.

as far as it being part of the shoulder or not, think of it like this...

when Ben goes through his throwing motion, the joints are going to move in succession until they reach a stable point. The SC joint, being at the middle of the body, is the end of that process, which may lead to a lot more instability.

If you hold a wet noodle in the middle and shake it, half of the noodle wobbles. If you hold it at the end and shake it, the whole thing wobbles. Ben throwing a football at this point would be like the whole noodle wobbling, because the anchor point is unstable.